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Dimon says country ‘should be worried’ about stagflatio­n

JPMorgan’s CEO hopes for soft landing for U.S. economy

- BY KEN SWEET AP Business Writer

NEW YORK — JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon says he’s hopeful the Federal Reserve can bring down inflation without causing a recession but wouldn’t rule out more troubling possibilit­ies, such as stagflatio­n.

In an interview with The Associated Press at a Chase branch opening in The Bronx, Dimon said he remained “cautious” about the U.S. economy and said inflation may be stickier for longer and that “stagflatio­n is on the list of possible things” that could happen to the U.S. economy.

“You should be worried about (the possibilit­y of stagflatio­n),” Dimon said.

Dimon did emphasize that he’s still “hopeful” for the U.S. economy to experience a soft landing, where growth slows but the economy avoids a recession even if inflation remains a little high, but he’s not certain that is the most likely outcome.

“I’m just a little more dubious than others that a (soft landing) is a given,” he said.

The Fed rapidly raised interest rates in 2022 and 2023 after inflation reached the highest level in four decades. Fed officials have indicated they expect to begin lowering rates at some point, but the timeline has been pushed back as inflation remains well above the central bank’s target rate of 2%.

Dimon spoke to the AP on a range of issues, including the economy, the independen­ce of the Federal Reserve, the need for banks to open branches and the pressing geopolitic­al issues of the day.

Inflation has been stubbornly elevated so far this year, and a report Thursday showing growth slowed in the first three months of this year fanned fears of “stagflatio­n,” which occurs when the economy is weak, or in recession, yet prices keep moving higher. It’s a particular­ly miserable combinatio­n of economic circumstan­ces, with high unemployme­nt occurring along with rising costs. Typically, a sluggish economy brings down inflation.

Stagflatio­n last occurred in the 1970s, when conditions were far worse than today. In 1975, for example, inflation topped 10% while the unemployme­nt rate peaked at 9%. Inflation is now 3.5% and unemployme­nt just 3.8%, near a half-century low. If stagflatio­n did occur, Dimon said he believes it would not be as bad as it was in the 1970s.

Fears of stagflatio­n eased Friday after a government report showed consumer spending stayed strong in March, suggesting the economy will keep expanding at a solid pace in the coming months.

Dimon said he was “thrilled” that Congress was able to pass the bipartisan national security bill that provided military aid to Ukraine, Taiwan and Israel. In previous comments, Dimon has said it was important for there to be “American leadership” on the world stage, or else the U.S. would likely cede that position to China in the next century. Dimon had pushed hard for the U.S. to come up with the billions of dollars needed to aid Ukraine.

“I think it’s a really good sign they want to get that done,” Dimon said, referring to House Speaker Mike Johnson, as well as Senate leaders on both sides of the political aisle.

 ?? ANDRES KUDACKI/AP ?? Jamie Dimon (center), CEO and chairman of JPMorgan Chase, attends the ribbon-cutting ceremony during the community branch opening in the Bronx borough of New York on Friday.
ANDRES KUDACKI/AP Jamie Dimon (center), CEO and chairman of JPMorgan Chase, attends the ribbon-cutting ceremony during the community branch opening in the Bronx borough of New York on Friday.

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