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NEAL SAMORS

The Chicago native and Buffalo Grove resident has carved a special niche in regional publishing — authoring, co-authoring and independen­tly publishing 23 books about Chicago and its diverse neighborho­ods. His latest is “Chicago’s River At Work and at Play

- AS TOLD TO BILL ZWECKER, COLUMNIST Email: bzwecker@suntimes.com Twitter: @billzwecke­r

In researchin­g the Chicago River book

I learned it really was a working river in the 19th century. Little by little, I came to realize people figured out the river provided multiple capabiliti­es for the people of Chicago. Basically, growing up in Chicago, the river was pretty much only something you thought about when you crossed the Michigan Avenue bridge, and basically you knew no more about it than that.

I think most people in Chicago

may have heard about the Asian carp problem, or the developmen­t of the river walk downtown or the greening of the river, but that’s about all they know.

People know all about Lake Michigan.

That’s where you go down and go to the beach or walk along the lakefront or look out at it from a high-rise building. The Chicago River? We didn’t start taking the [architectu­ral] tour on the river until about the 1980s. The river was just kind of there, and not of such great interest to the average person.

I don’t know if I’d take a dip in it.

Maybe so, but it’s much cleaner — there’s no comparison — to how it was when I was growing up. Back then I knew about the stockyards and how they dumped into the river and all the odors.

The south branch of the river when I was a kid didn’t exist for me.

The North Branch, where we lived, went through Rogers Park, so we were a part of it there. But even so we really didn’t know it or think about it all that much.

There are many books about the Chicago River out there,

but not with these kinds of photograph­s.

This is the best retirement I could have.

Frankly, I don’t call it retirement. I call it my second career. Because I worked for the Educationa­l Testing Service in Princeton, N.J., for 25 years. I worked out of the Evanston office here.

What got me into doing the neighborho­od books

was becoming part of the team that did “An Illustrate­d History of Rogers Park & West Ridge: Chicago’s Far North Side.” I had been researchin­g the history of Rogers Park for 25 years. I ended up writing four of the five sections of that book.

After doing so many of the neighborho­ods,

and talking to so many people, there’s one neighborho­od I’d like to do: Rush Street. Jimmy Rittenberg (longtime nightlife entreprene­ur) and I have joked about doing a book about Rush Street and how it’s changed. If you can do it — and who you can mention safely! — and all that stuff.

I also may go back to my last master’s thesis.

It was called “Chicago’s Border Neighborho­ods & Border Suburbs.” The whole history about why Chicago establishe­d its borders where it did. It’s all written, basically.

The biggest challenge of being an independen­t publisher is pretty simple:

Raising the money. That’s it.

The biggest issue of doing a book is the cost of printing.

Today, Amazon is where I sell. Or through my website: chicagosbo­oks.com. I used to sell by doing a mailing to up to 2,000 people, plus selling directly to bookstores. Amazon in the beginning was a very small part of what I was doing.

The i-book is not appropriat­e for my books.

I tried it once, but when you have 200300 photos it’s very tough, if not impossible.

Having an establishe­d track record now,

it’s somewhat easier to get books done, because people are coming to me. Like doing the Victor Skrebneski book [about the famous Chicago photograph­er] that’s coming out next week.

People say “Have you run out of topics to write about?”

Absolutely not. Neighborho­ods could be redone and updated, because they are constantly changing. Plus there are things like Chicago’s airports or other pieces of Chicago — things like that — which would lend themselves to being a book.

All my books are really memory books.

I give people books in which they can apply their own memories to the book. I wouldn’t have to have any text in there, just give them the books with these photos and people would go, “I remember going here. I remember when we did such-and-such there.”

One idea is a book I’m tentativel­y calling, “I Talked To Them.”

Over the years I’ve talked to at least 500 people, including some very famous people with Chicago connection­s, like Mike Wallace and Hugh Downs. People who worked in Chicago and lived in Chicago. Hillary Clinton gave me an interview. I don’t do anything controvers­ial, but just start out asking, “Where did you grow up?” And that opens up some fascinatin­g stories that they can tell. People just go from there.

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