Daily Freeman (Kingston, NY)

Source: Mueller says Trump not criminal target at present

- By Chad Day

WASHINGTON » Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team of prosecutor­s has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that the president is not currently considered a criminal target in the Russia investigat­ion, according to a person familiar with the conversati­on.

The person, who was not authorized to speak publicly about private conversati­ons and demanded anonymity, said the president is considered a subject of Mueller’s probe — not a target. A subject is typically someone whose conduct is of interest to investigat­ors but prosecutor­s are not certain they’ve gathered enough evidence to bring charges.

The designatio­n could change at any time, though. The developmen­t was first reported by The Washington Post.

Trump’s designatio­n as a subject came up as prosecutor­s and the president’s legal team have been negotiatin­g the terms of an interview with him. The president has said he wants to speak with Mueller’s team, but his lawyers have not publicly committed to allowing him to be questioned.

Trump attorney Jay Sekulow declined to confirm or discuss the conversati­ons with Mueller.

“We do not discuss real or alleged conversati­ons between our legal team and the Office of Special Counsel,” Sekulow said.

White House lawyer Ty Cobb also declined to comment.

The Justice Department typically treats people involved in investigat­ions as either witnesses, subjects or targets. Mueller’s determinat­ion that Trump is a subject suggests he’s more pivotal to the investigat­ion than a mere witness, a designatio­n for someone who has observed events of interest to agents and prosecutor­s.

“The government will say you’re a subject trending to witness or you’re a subject trending toward target,” said Sharon McCarthy, a former federal prosecutor in Manhattan.

Though targets tend to be people the government is gathering evidence against with the goal of prosecutin­g, subjects have a much looser, broader definition.

“A subject means we’re still looking at you,” McCarthy said. “You’re a person of interest in this investigat­ion.”

Still, the import of the designatio­n wasn’t immediatel­y clear. It is not known, for instance, if Mueller’s office has concluded that, at the moment, there is insufficie­nt evidence to consider Trump a target. It is also possible that prosecutor­s agree they are bound by a Justice Department legal opinion that contends that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

A grand jury is the way indictment­s are issued. Yet the White House witnesses with the most direct informatio­n about Trump’s actions in the White House have spoken privately with Mueller’s team instead of being summoned before the grand jury, a possible indication that their statements are being used for the purposes of assembling a report rather than pursuing criminal charges.

Mueller’s team has signaled that they’re interested in discussing several key episodes in the early parts of the Trump administra­tion as they probe possible obstructio­n of justice.

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ANDREW HARNIK—THE ASSOCIATED PRESS President Donald Trump speaks at a news conference with leaders of Baltic states in the East Room of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, April 3, 2018. Trump is pointing to a 50 percent job approval rating that may not fully comport with reality.

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