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President keeps selling Ukraine hacking theory

- By Aamer Madhani

— President WASHINGTON

Donald Trump on Friday promoted a debunked conspiracy theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election, a day after a former White House adviser called it a “fictional narrative” and said it played into Russia’s hands.

Trump called in to “Fox & Friends” and said he was trying to root out corruption in the Eastern European nation when he withheld aid over the summer. Trump’s July 25 call with Ukraine’s president is at the center of the House impeachmen­t probe, which is looking into whether Trump held back nearly $400 million in aid to pressure Ukraine to investigat­e his political rival.

He also worked to undercut witnesses at the hearings, including the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitc­h, whom Trump recalled from her post in Kyiv. The president called her an “Obama person” and claimed she didn’t want his picture to hang on the walls of the embassy.

“There are a lot of things that she did that I didn’t like,” he said, adding that he asked why administra­tion officials were being so kind to her. “‘Well, sir, she’s a woman. We have to be nice,’ he said they told him.

Without providing details, Trump said he viewed her differentl­y. “She’s very tough. I heard bad things,” he said.

He repeated his assertion that Ukrainians might have hacked the Democratic National Committee’s network in 2016 and framed Russia for the crime, a theory his own advisers have dismissed.

“They gave the server to CrowdStrik­e, which is a company owned by a very wealthy Ukrainian,” Trump said. “I still want to see that server. The FBI has never gotten that server. That’s a big part of this whole thing.”

The president in the wide-ranging interview also claimed he knows the identity of the whistleblo­wer who filed the formal complaint that spurred the impeachmen­t inquiry.

“You know who the whistleblo­wer is. So do I,” Trump told the hosts.

Trump said he didn’t believe House Intelligen­ce Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff, D-Calif., who has maintained that he doesn’t know the identity of the whistleblo­wer.

“If he doesn’t, then he’s the only person in Washington who doesn’t,” Trump said.

Trump said he does not expect to be impeached, claiming Democrats have “absolutely nothing” incriminat­ing, despite days of public testimony by witnesses who said Trump withheld aid from Ukraine to press the country to investigat­e his political rivals.

“I think it’s very hard to impeach you when they have absolutely nothing,” Trump said, adding that if the House did vote to impeach him, he would welcome a trial in the Senate.

Trump’s claim on Ukraine being behind the 2016 election interferen­ce has been discredite­d by intelligen­ce agencies and his own advisers.

CrowdStrik­e, an internet security firm based in California, investigat­ed the DNC hack in June 2016 and traced it to two groups of hackers connected to a Russian intelligen­ce service — not Ukraine.

One version of the debunked theory holds that CrowdStrik­e is owned by a wealthy Ukrainian. Company co-founder Dmitri Alperovitc­h is a Russian-born U.S. citizen who immigrated as a child and graduated from the Georgia Institute of Technology.

The president repeated his claim one day after Fiona Hill, a former Russia adviser on the White House National Security Council, admonished Republican­s for pushing unsubstant­iated conspiracy theories about Ukrainian interferen­ce in the 2016 presidenti­al election.

“This is a fictional narrative that has actually been perpetrate­d and propagated by the Russian security services themselves,” she said at Thursday’s hearing.

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 ?? MARK WILSON / GETTY IMAGES ?? President Donald Trump says he was trying to root out corruption in Ukraine when he withheld aid from the Eastern European nation this summer.
MARK WILSON / GETTY IMAGES President Donald Trump says he was trying to root out corruption in Ukraine when he withheld aid from the Eastern European nation this summer.

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