Hartford Courant

Himes: Mueller will be ‘clinical’

Congressma­n says former special counsel’s hearing could be a ‘letdown’

- By Ana Radelat

There will be much at stake for both supporters of President Donald Trump and those who oppose his presidency when former special counsel Robert Mueller testifies before two House committees Wednesday.

Outside a brief public statement in May, Mueller’s appearance — first before the House Judiciary Committee and then before the House Intelligen­ce Committee — will be the first time he speaks publicly about the findings of an 18-month investigat­ion into Russian meddling in the 2016 elections.

U.S. Rep. Jim Himes, D-4th District, a member of the House Intelli

gence Committee who will have the opportunit­y to question Mueller on Wednesday, said those who expect new bombshell revelation­s could well be disappoint­ed.

“It’s possible the hearing may be a letdown, because Bob Mueller is a very careful person,” Himes said. “I expect it will be frustratin­g because this is a huge and explosive issue and Bob Mueller will be dry and clinical.”

Even so, Democrats like Himes believe the hearing could raise awareness of wrongdoing they believe the president has committed.

“It is an opportunit­y for Americans to see that they have a deeply unethical president,” he said.

Himes ticked off what he considers ethical breaches — the paying off of porn star Stormy Daniels, welcoming Russian help during the 2016 campaign, and the president’s requests that people lie for him in certain situations.

“The list goes on and on,” he said. Himes also said he hoped for a second result out of the hearings – one that Mueller himself promoted in his brief public appearance in May — that the investigat­ion and the voluminous report on the investigat­ion prod the nation to safeguard its electoral system.

Democrats on the intelligen­ce panel have prepared for Mueller’s testimony by conducting mock hearings, with a staffer playing the taciturn former special counsel while lawmakers practice how to press him for details.

But Mueller’s long-awaited public appearance could backfire if House Republican­s are able to effectivel­y muddy the waters by focusing on the investigat­ion’s methods, propriety and foundation.

The Trump administra­tion has tasked U.S. Attorney John Durham of Connecticu­t to lead a review of the the origins of the Russia investigat­ion as well as the conduct of Justice Department and FBI.

U.S. Attorney General William Barr said he chose Durham to lead the investigat­ion because he wanted “someone who is tenacious, who is used to looking at sensitive material involving government activities, who has a reputation for being fair and evenhanded.”

Meanwhile, Trump has repeatedly denigrated Mueller’s investigat­ion and his 448-page report on the investigat­ion, even as he has used its findings to declare there was “no collusion” and “no obstructio­n” by members of his campaign and administra­tion.

On Monday, Trump tweeted “I completely read the entire Mueller Report, and do you know what I concluded after reading both Volume 1 and Volume 2? There is no there there. NO THERE THERE! We completely wasted everybody’s time and taxpayer’s money.”

New calls for impeachmen­t

Himes said Democrats on the House Intelligen­ce Committee will focus their attention Wednesday on Russian hacking and Russian use of social media to help the Trump campaign, “which the Trump campaign repeatedly welcomed.”

He also said there would be some “process” questions for Mueller.

“I don’t expect Mueller to go outside the report,” Himes said. “But he does have some process questions to answer.

“Why did he not interview the president? Why did he not interview Donald Trump Jr.?”

There are some questions Mueller might not answer.

Responding to a request from Mueller for the department’s guidance on testimony, the Justice Department said in a letter on Monday that Mueller shouldn’t discuss ongoing cases or uncharged individual­s and that some details of his work may be covered by executive privilege.

After the two House panels complete five hours of questionin­g Mueller, Himes said “a few more people” in Congress may call for the president’s impeachmen­t.

“But it really doesn’t matter,” he said. “It’s not going to sway [House Speaker] Nancy Pelosi.”

Pelosi has argued it would be a political mistake for the U.S. House to impeach Trump because the GOPcontrol­led Senate will not vote to convict the president.

Representi­ng southwest Connecticu­t in Congress, Himes said he would support the opening of an impeachmen­t inquiry.

“But (Pelosi) has a broader view than I have,” he said.

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