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Supreme Court nominee makes Senate rounds

- By Mary Clare Jalonick

WASHINGTON — Engaging in lawyerly small talk, Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley was telling Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson this past week how he met his wife while clerking at the high court.

Jackson already knew the story, he discovered. She even “filled in some of the details for me.”

“So I thought — she’s very well prepared.”

Jackson was prepared, as well, for the Republican senator’s questions about Guantanamo Bay detainees she represente­d 15 years ago as a public defender and, after that, in private practice. Hawley said after the meeting that he is still concerned about that part of her record but found her forthcomin­g and engaging, with a “very high degree” of legal acumen.

“I think her hearings will be very substantiv­e,” he said.

Jackson, who sits on the federal appeals court and would replace retiring Justice Stephen Breyer, is unlikely to need support from Hawley or any other Republican to be confirmed, and may not win over any of them. But as she makes the rounds at the Capitol, traversing from one Senate office to the next before her confirmati­on hearings later this month, Jackson is networking with zeal, restoring a collegial tone to a confirmati­on process that had grown increasing­ly embittered during the Trump era.

“I want to make this a bipartisan vote,” Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Dick Durbin said after Breyer announced his retirement. “I think it is not only good for the Supreme Court, it’s good for the Senate.”

Democrats and the White House are hoping that Jackson’s enviable résumé, empathetic style and historic potential as the first Black female justice will win at least a few crossover votes. And because her confirmati­on to replace the liberal-leaning Breyer wouldn’t shift the ideologica­l balance of the court, Republican­s aren’t expending much political energy opposing her.

Durbin and President Joe Biden have been reaching out to some GOP senators personally, promising to answer any questions and give them extended time with the nominee.

The most gettable Republican vote is Maine Sen. Susan Collins, who has already received three calls from Biden and met Jackson for more than 90 minutes on Tuesday. Collins, one of only three Republican­s to vote for Jackson when she was confirmed to the circuit court last year, called the meeting “lengthy and very productive.” She signaled that that the nominee is likely to have her vote.

“She takes a very thorough, careful approach in applying the law to the facts of the case, and that is what I want to see in a judge,” Collins said.

Jackson was prepared for the small talk in that meeting, as well, telling Collins in the first few minutes that she got engaged to her husband in Maine.

“She passed that test,” Collins joked to reporters in her office as the two women smiled together for the cameras.

‘Charming’ to ‘offensive’

Even if other Republican­s don’t vote for Jackson, it’s clear that she has impressed many of them as she has navigated the awkward ritual of the meet and greet. Texas Sen. John Cornyn praised her experience as a public defender and said she was “charming.” North Carolina Sen. Thom Tillis noted how prepared she was, a move he said was “wise.” Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse shook her hand and congratula­ted her while the two smiled for cameras under a large buffalo head on his office wall.

The effusivene­ss from some Republican­s is a sharp departure from the last several Supreme Court nomination­s.

In 2016, after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, the Republican majority denied a vote on President Barack Obama’s nominee, now-Attorney General Merrick Garland, and most Republican­s refused even to meet him. Democrats’ frustratio­n over their jilted nominee was ever-present when President Donald Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch to fill the post the next year.

In 2018, Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh to replace retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy; his confirmati­on came after an explosive, combative hearing in which Christine Blasey Ford accused him of sexually assaulting her in high school, which Kavanaugh denied.

And Democrats had few words of praise for Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who Trump nominated to replace the liberal icon Ruth Bader Ginsburg after her death just weeks before 2020 presidenti­al election.

Republican reaction to Jackson hasn’t all been positive. Before Biden named her as the nominee, several Republican­s, including Hawley, criticized the president’s pledge to nominate a Black woman to the post. Hawley called the pledge “hard woke left.” Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said it was “offensive” to have that criteria. Mississipp­i Sen. Roger Wicker likened it to affirmativ­e action.

The good vibes could dissipate in the hearings, as well, if race moves to the forefront or if some Republican­s make more personal arguments against her. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell has so far signaled to his ranks to avoid that kind of questionin­g and keep the focus on issues they see as more damaging to Democrats, like inflation.

Asked about Biden’s pledge to nominate a Black woman, McConnell replied: “Honestly, I did not think that was inappropri­ate.”

Philosophy questions

Still, Republican­s are sure to question Jackson aggressive­ly at her confirmati­on hearings, which begin March 21, and criticize her for any rulings that they see as too far to the left. Hawley, Cornyn and Tillis — all members of the Senate Judiciary Committee — said they have questions about whether Jackson is guided by any specific judicial philosophy.

Democrats who have met with the nominee appear thrilled with Biden’s choice, gushing over Jackson’s eight years as a federal judge, her time as a public defender and her ability to connect with others — a quality they say could help her bring the Supreme Court closer together, as well.

Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono, a member of the Judiciary panel, said that when she met with Jackson she asked the judge what stood out to her most about Breyer, whom she had clerked for many years ago. She said Jackson replied that it was the justice’s ability to reach out to other members of the court.

“Even if she can’t convince other people to her way of approachin­g a case, I think that that willingnes­s to talk, and understand­ing another perspectiv­e, is a very important aspect of the kind of person she is,” Hirono said.

Another Democrat on the committee, Connecticu­t Sen. Richard Blumenthal, said after his meeting that Jackson has a “really engaging personalit­y” as well as a superior intellect.

“What really struck me most was her personal depth and warmth, and her intuitive interest in how real people are affected by her decisions beyond the abstract legalisms,” Blumenthal said.

 ?? Alex Brandon / Associated Press ?? Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson meets with Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., on Thursday. Her Senate confirmati­on hearing begins March 21.
Alex Brandon / Associated Press Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson meets with Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., on Thursday. Her Senate confirmati­on hearing begins March 21.

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