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Turkey trouble? Butterball helpers still await calls

- By Kim Severson

NAPERVILLE, Ill. — The internet should have killed the Butterball Turkey Talk-Line years ago, but all the Google searches, YouTube videos and turkey tweets in the world can’t match the small-bore magic that happens here on the fifth floor of a suburban office building 34 miles southwest of Chicago.

Each year from Nov. 1 through Christmas Eve, 50 Butterball experts ease more than 100,000 nervous cooks through their Thanksgivi­ng meal, either over the phone or, more recently, through text, email or live chat sessions.

The talk line started 38 years ago as a marketing gimmick and has grown into a seasonal slice of Americana as sturdy and reassuring as a Midwestern grandmothe­r with a degree in home economics, which many of the experts are.

“People can be just paralyzed with fear,” said Phyllis Kramer, who first took the seasonal job 17 years ago after retiring as a home economist. “All they usually need is someone who takes the time to be personal and sympatheti­c.” Kramer embraces the talk-line ethos, which requires a cheery, solution-oriented and nonjudgmen­tal demeanor. But who doesn’t love a good kitchen disaster story? It doesn’t take much to coax the experts into spilling some tea on America’s turkey illiteracy.

Their version of comedy gold often centers on thawing, the most common topic among callers. People ask if they can thaw a turkey in the dishwasher, under an electric blanket or in the backyard pool. One man threw a wrapped turkey in the bath water with his two children.

One of the classics

Here’s a classic: A man called in, worried about whether his bird would thaw in time. “What state is your turkey in?” the expert asked, trying to do a little culinary detective work. “Florida,” he answered.

Kramer’s favorite call came five years ago, when a group she suspects was fueled by a few holiday cocktails complained that the 21-pound turkey they had just pulled from the oven had barely any meat. She was puzzled but then had a moment of what she called divine inspiratio­n. “Turn the turkey over,” she suggested. They had cooked it breast-side down.

“The internet isn’t going to tell them that,” Kramer said.

The Butterball talk line is one of the great marketing ideas of modern American consumeris­m, right up there with using a national baking contest to promote Pillsbury flour or Clydesdale­s to sell Budweiser.

It was born in 1981, when Pam Talbot, an executive of the Chicago public relations firm founded by feisty former journalist Daniel J. Edelman, pitched the idea as a way to help deal with “turkey trauma.”

The first year, six women fielded 11,000 calls on a toll-free line — no small thing in an age before unlimited calling plans and mobile phones. Their reference material was contained in small binders.

Today, the experts, all of whom possess some kind of culinary or nutritiona­l background, have an elaborate database of turkey tips and recipes at their fingertips, with links at the ready to send out via text and social media.

They do their best to keep up with the trends. Last year, there were a lot of questions about Instant Pots and sous vide. This year, spatchcock­ing (splitting and flattening the bird) and air frying are popular. And always, there are questions about deepfrying.

The best way to cook

Still, the people in headsets remain steadfast in the belief that the company’s preferred method is best: Coat the turkey with oil or cooking spray. Use a shallow roasting pan with a rack, a bed of aromatic vegetables or, in a pinch, a coil of foil. Cook at 325 degrees. A 10- to 18-pound turkey will take three to 3½ hours if you don’t open the oven to baste it, which isn’t necessary. The thigh should reach 180 degrees and the breast 170 degrees, which you achieve by placing a foil tent over the breast in the last half-hour.

The call traffic starts picking up in earnest the Thursday before Thanksgivi­ng, which Butterball calls National Thaw Day. Go time is Thanksgivi­ng itself. The action starts as soon as the line opens at 6 a.m. and doesn’t stop until it closes 12 hours later.

Almost all of the experts have that one deeply meaningful call. It came for Bill Nolan in 2016. He’s a chef and retired culinary educator whose other job involves preparing meals for a group of priests.

He is relatively new — one of only a few men on the talk line, which didn’t hire its first until 2013.

Nolan picked up a call from a widowed man the day before Thanksgivi­ng.

“He said his wife was gone, but he wanted to make that first Thanksgivi­ng meal without her for his family,” Nolan said.

Tears came to his eyes as he told the rest of the story.

Although the average call is about three minutes, he spent almost a halfhour with the man, coaching him through a simple Thanksgivi­ng meal.

“I mean, here was this guy in a house by himself who called us to help,” Nolan said. “We don’t cure cancer, and we don’t save lives, but maybe that guy had a good meal.”

 ?? James Hosking / New York Times ?? Bill Nolan, a chef and culinary educator at the Butterball Turkey hotline based in Naperville, Ill., is one of only a handful of men hired for the job.
James Hosking / New York Times Bill Nolan, a chef and culinary educator at the Butterball Turkey hotline based in Naperville, Ill., is one of only a handful of men hired for the job.

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