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Expert: Lack of oxygen killed Floyd, not drugs in his system

- By Amy Forliti, Steve Karnowski and Tammy Webber

MINNEAPOLI­S — George Floyd died of a lack of oxygen from being pinned to the pavement with a knee on his neck, a medical expert testified at former police officer Derek Chauvin’s murder trial Thursday, emphatical­ly rejecting the defense theory that Floyd’s drug use and underlying health problems were what killed him.

“A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died,” said prosecutio­n witness Dr. Martin Tobin, a lung and critical care specialist at the Edward Hines Jr. VA Hospital and Loyola University’s medical school in Illinois.

Using easy-to-understand language to explain medical concepts and even loosening his necktie to illustrate a point, Tobin told the jury that Floyd’s breathing was severely constricte­d while Chauvin and two other Minneapoli­s officers held the 46-year-old former Houston resident down on his stomach last May with his hands cuffed behind him and his face jammed against the ground.

The lack of oxygen resulted in brain damage and caused his heart to stop, the witness said.

Tobin, analyzing images of the three officers restrainin­g Floyd for what prosecutor­s say was almost 9½ minutes, testified that Chauvin’s knee was “virtually on the neck” for more than 90 percent of the time.

He cited several other factors that he said also made it difficult for Floyd to breathe: officers lifting up on the suspect’s handcuffs, the hard surface of the street, his prone position, his turned head and a knee on his back.

Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd’s neck for 3 minutes, 2 seconds after Floyd had “reached the point where there was not one ounce of oxygen left in the body,” Tobin said.

As prosecutor­s repeatedly played a video clip of Floyd on the ground, Tobin pinpointed what he said was a change in the man’s face that told him Floyd was dead. That moment happened around five minutes after police began holding Floyd down.

“At the beginning you can see he’s conscious, you can see slight flickering, and then it disappears,” Tobin said. He explained: “That’s the moment the life goes out of his body.”

Chauvin, 45, is charged with murder and manslaught­er in Floyd’s death May 25.

Floyd was arrested outside a neighborho­od market after being accused of trying to pass a counterfei­t $20 bill. Bystander video of Floyd crying that he couldn’t breathe as onlookers yelled at the white officer to get off him sparked protests and scattered violence around the U.S.

In his testimony, Tobin explained that just because Floyd was talking and shown moving on video doesn’t mean he was breathing adequately. He said a leg movement seen in the footage was involuntar­y, and that a person can continue to speak until the airway narrows to 15 percent, after which “you are in deep trouble.”

Officers can be heard on video telling Floyd that if he can talk, he can breathe.

During cross-examinatio­n, Chauvin attorney Eric Nelson pressed Tobin on that common misconcept­ion, pointing to earlier testimony that Minneapoli­s officers are trained that if people can speak, they can breathe.

Nelson has argued that Chauvin did what he was trained to do and that Floyd’s death was caused by illegal drugs and underlying medical problems that included high blood pressure and heart disease. An autopsy found fentanyl and methamphet­amine in his system.

But Tobin said he analyzed Floyd’s respiratio­n as seen on body-camera video and explained that while fentanyl typically cuts the rate of respiratio­n 40 percent, Floyd’s breathing was “right around normal” just before he lost consciousn­ess.

Tobin also said the high blood level of carbon dioxide measured in the emergency room can be explained by the fact that Floyd wasn’t breathing for nearly 10 minutes before paramedics began artificial respiratio­n, as opposed to his breathing being suppressed by fentanyl.

Another prosecutio­n witness, Dr. Bill Smock, an expert on deaths from asphyxia, backed up Tobin’s assessment.

Smock said Floyd didn’t have symptoms of a fentanyl overdose such as constricte­d pupils and decreased breathing. He said Floyd’s actions were the opposite, because he was pleading for air.

“That is not a fentanyl overdose. That is somebody begging to breathe,” said Smock, a police surgeon for the Louisville, Ky., department.

 ?? Stephen Maturen / Getty Images ?? Memorials mark George Floyd Square on Thursday in Minneapoli­s as ex-officer Derek Chauvin’s murder trial continues.
Stephen Maturen / Getty Images Memorials mark George Floyd Square on Thursday in Minneapoli­s as ex-officer Derek Chauvin’s murder trial continues.
 ?? Associated Press ?? Dr. Martin Tobin testifies Thursday about the moment of George Floyd’s death under Chauvin’s knee on May 25.
Associated Press Dr. Martin Tobin testifies Thursday about the moment of George Floyd’s death under Chauvin’s knee on May 25.

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