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Rumble, the right’s go-to video site, has much bigger ambitions

- By Jeremy W. Peters,

You won’t find Red Pill News or the X22 Report on Youtube anymore. The far-right online shows were taken down in the fall of 2020 after the major social media and tech companies started purging accounts that spread the Qanon conspiracy theory. ¶ But you will find both of them on a video-sharing platform called Rumble, where their content ranks among the most popular on the site.

Over the last couple of weeks, as Republican­s opened a misleading attack on Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson as too lenient with criminals who sexually abuse children, Red Pill News and the X22 Report posted videos claiming that her nomination to the Supreme Court by President Joe Biden was all the proof anyone needed that a cabal of pedophiles operated at the highest levels of the government, a belief Qanon adherents hold.

“Think about the bigger picture,” the host of the X22 Report, which has more than half a million Rumble subscriber­s, implored his viewers in an episode posted Wednesday. “Right now, people are being taught about pedophilia. People are listening to this, and they’re seeing exactly how these people think and how they’re trying to normalize it.”

In one day, that episode was viewed almost 220,000 times on Rumble, which has experience­d explosive growth since conservati­ves and supporters of former President Donald Trump embraced it after the 2020 election. Its users and financial backers see it as the new frontier in social media — a network built by and for them, where virtually anything goes.

Rumble’s chief executive pitches the company, which is based in Toronto, as “immune from cancel culture.” It has tens of millions of dollars in financing from right-of-center entreprene­urs like billionair­e Peter Thiel, and Trump entered into an arrangemen­t for Rumble to provide his new social media service, Truth Social, with the technology and operationa­l support that it lacked itself.

Once better known for viral videos of cats and toddlers, Rumble now draws 44 million monthly visitors, according to the analytics firm Similarweb, giving it a larger reach than other top destinatio­ns for conservati­ve content, including Breitbart, Newsmax and The Daily Wire. In the first nine months of last year, the most recently available financial informatio­n, Rumble generated more than $6.5 million in revenue, most of it from advertisin­g, but was not profitable. It has announced plans to trade publicly, as soon as the middle of this year, after merging with a special purpose acquisitio­n company.

The story of Rumble’s success is instructiv­e for both sides of the tense debate over balancing the right to free speech with the growing threat that disinforma­tion poses to the stability of government­s around the globe. For those who argue that Google and Facebook

algorithms are blunt, deeply flawed instrument­s for policing discourse, Rumble offers a welcome alternativ­e, albeit an imperfect one. And for those who fear that lawmakers and technology companies aren’t doing enough to tame false and fabricated informatio­n ahead of the next presidenti­al election, Rumble has opened up a potentiall­y dangerous loophole.

“There is something very significan­t about Rumble that I don’t think people appreciate,” said Angelo Carusone, president of Media Matters, the liberal media watchdog. Carusone said the painstakin­g work that went into persuading Facebook, Google and Twitter to be more aggressive about policing fake and inciting content prevented a lot of it from breaking through to a wider audience.

“Rumble basically changes that game,” he added.

Rumble’s chief executive, Chris Pavlovski, has said he did not set out to create a platform where right-wing content is favored when he started it in 2013. Rather, he said, he envisioned Rumble as an alternativ­e to the approach that Google and other large tech companies took a decade ago when they began to promote the content of a select group of influencer­s over everyday users.

“There is no ideology here. If anything, we’re just neutral,” Pavlovski said in an interview in February with a popular Rumble content creator.

He has described his mission in lofty, virtuous terms. “We are a movement that does not stifle, censor or punish creativity,” he said in announcing Rumble’s plans to go public. More recently, he has chastised social media and search engine companies like Duckduckgo, a Google alternativ­e popular on the right that angered some users when it said it would steer people away from sites that promoted misinforma­tion about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Pavlovski announced on Twitter that he had deleted its app from his phone.

But Rumble’s democratiz­ing vision for speech online has so far mostly appealed to people on the right. That includes numerous extremists who use their Rumble accounts to deny the effectiven­ess of vaccines, play down the horrific human toll of Russia’s aggression in Ukraine and question the legitimacy of the 2020 election. Still, criticism of the often capricious and inconsiste­nt nature of online censorship rings true beyond those with fringe beliefs.

There is a large audience to be had, and one that some who study far-right content online warn has been left unchecked to grow into a powerful political weapon for conservati­ves and supporters of Trump.

“It’s already succeeded — this alternate universe has already bloomed,” said Denver Riggleman, a former Republican congressma­n and an intelligen­ce analyst who is working with the commission in Congress investigat­ing the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

Pavlovski and Rumble representa­tives did not respond to interview requests.

But he has made clear in streamed remarks to Rumble creators and to others that his ambitions are far greater than increasing traffic to his website and app. With investment­s from like-minded critics of Big Tech like Thiel, Pavlovski has described a vision for building a “new internet” — a kind of alt-web that is entirely distinct from the dominant players in the industry.

Rumble has already built out its own cloud service infrastruc­ture and video streaming capacity, offering it and its partners greater independen­ce from the Amazons and Microsofts of the internet — and the assurance that they can’t be shut down if one of those providers decides to pull the plug over objectiona­ble content. Looming large in the minds of Rumble fans is the experience of the social media network Parler, which effectivel­y shut down once Amazon said it would no longer host the site on its computing services after the Jan. 6 attacks last year.

The promise of independen­ce from the tech giants led Trump to have Rumble provide technology and cloud services for Truth Social, which has struggled to become fully operationa­l on its own. In a statement announcing the partnershi­p in December, Trump said he had picked Rumble because it’s among the service providers “who do not discrimina­te against political ideology.”

Rumble has also secured exclusive arrangemen­ts with popular content creators who have a following beyond conservati­ves and Trump supporters, such as journalist Glenn Greenwald, who has been vocal about his beliefs that technology behemoths and the mainstream media have too much power to quash speech. Rumble highlighte­d its partnershi­p with Greenwald as an example of its content-neutral approach. (As for what it considers out of bounds, Rumble says it does not tolerate anything that is overtly racist, promotes violence or breaks the law.)

But there are also the popular Rumble creators the company doesn’t talk about in news releases, like Alex Jones of Infowars, who was barred from Youtube and other mainstream platforms in 2018 and now has more than 100,000 Rumble followers.

That’s a small number compared with the millions on Youtube who followed Jones, who has spread bogus theories that the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre was staged as part of a government plot to confiscate firearms. Those who study the right-wing media ecosystem say it is difficult to tell how large the overall audience for hardright content is, in large part because the traffic data available for individual sites includes a lot of overlap from users who frequent more than one.

“It’s an intensely engaged population,” said Yochai Benkler, a professor at Harvard Law School who is a co-author of a book about the ways conservati­ve outlets reinforce their messages through repetition and shut down dissent. For an individual platform like Rumble, he added, the audience is likely to be larger than whatever the size is on paper.

“All of my skepticism of how many people there are bumps up against the reality” that millions more people voted for Trump than watch Fox News, he said. “So there’s something going on.”

One of Rumble’s marquee names is Dan Bongino, the pro-trump host and former Secret Service agent who replaced Rush Limbaugh in some radio markets and streams his daily show on Rumble to 2.2 million subscriber­s. Bongino’s path to Rumble illustrate­s the inherent difficulti­es of policing misinforma­tion and conspiracy theories. Youtube started cracking down on him in the fall of 2020 for violating its policies meant to stop the spread of false stories about the coronaviru­s.

After Youtube prevented Bongino from collecting ad revenue from the site, he announced that he was taking an equity stake in Rumble and made it his preferred video platform. “We need a home,” he said at the time. “We need somewhere to go where conservati­ve views won’t be discrimina­ted against.”

In the weeks and months that followed, as Trump refused to accept his loss in the election and Youtube blocked content that bolstered his false claims of widespread voter fraud, others jumped on board with Rumble, too, including One America News.

On the day after Rumble announced its OAN partnershi­p, Pavlovski insisted that his company would never censor that kind of political speech. “Rumble will not adopt a policy like this,” he said, citing an unimpeacha­ble inspiratio­n for his resolve: Galileo, who was charged with heresy by the Roman Catholic Church for theorizing that the Earth revolved around the sun.

Once better known for viral videos of cats and toddlers, Rumble now draws 44 million monthly visitors, according to the analytics firm Similarweb, giving it a larger reach than other top destinatio­ns for conservati­ve content, including Breitbart, Newsmax and The Daily Wire.

 ?? ERIK CARTER / THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? Rumble, the far right’s go-to video sharing platform, has experience­d explosive growth since conservati­ves and supporters of former President Donald Trump embraced it after the 2020 election. Its users and financial backers see it as the new frontier in social media — a network built by and for them, where virtually anything goes.
ERIK CARTER / THE NEW YORK TIMES Rumble, the far right’s go-to video sharing platform, has experience­d explosive growth since conservati­ves and supporters of former President Donald Trump embraced it after the 2020 election. Its users and financial backers see it as the new frontier in social media — a network built by and for them, where virtually anything goes.

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