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Messages reveal Carlson’s true feelings for Trump: ‘I hate him passionate­ly’

- By Katie Robertson

Documents released in recent weeks as part of a $1.6 billion defamation suit against Fox News by Dominion Voting Systems have revealed extraordin­ary private communicat­ions and deposition­s from the network’s star hosts and executives. In those statements, many of them expressed disbelief about former President Donald Trump’s false claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him, even though the network continued to promote many of those lies on the air.

Regardless of the outcome of the case, which is scheduled to go to trial in April, one host in particular — Tucker Carlson — appears to have a tricky road to navigate with his audience. In his private messages, Carlson, who generally provides strong support of Republican­s on the air, repeatedly showed contempt for Trump and some of his closest aides.

In a statement, Fox News said the fact that Dominion was using the contents of the legal filings “to twist and even misattribu­te quotes to the highest levels of our company is truly beyond the pale.”

Here are five examples of Carlson’s views on Trump from the documents:

1. On Trump’s business history, Nov. 6, 2020

As votes were being counted in the 2020 presidenti­al election, Carlson texted with his producer, Alex Pfeiffer, fretting about viewers turning away from Fox News after the network called Arizona for President Joe Biden.

Pfeiffer: Trump has a pretty low rate at success in his business ventures.

Carlson: That’s for sure. All of them fail. What he’s good at is destroying things. He’s the undisputed world champion of that.

2. On Trump’s plan to skip Biden’s inaugurati­on, Nov. 10, 2020

A staff member texted Carlson to say they’d heard Trump was planning not to attend the inaugurati­on, an important symbol of the peaceful transfer of power.

Carlson: I’d heard that about the inaugurati­on. Hard to believe. So destructiv­e.

Carlson: It’s disgusting. I’m trying to look away.

3. On his interactio­ns with Trump’s team over Sidney Powell, a Trump lawyer, Nov. 23, 2020

Carlson texts with Fox News host Laura Ingraham about Sidney Powell, a lawyer for Trump and one of the biggest promoters of the unfounded election fraud claims.

Carlson: I had to try to make the WH disavow her, which they obviously should have done long before.

Laura Ingraham: No serious lawyer could believe what they were saying.

Carlson: But they said nothing in public. Pretty disgusting. And now Trump, I learned this morning, is sitting back and letting them lose the senate. He doesn’t care. I care.

4. On his desire to move on from Trump, Jan. 4, 2021

Carlson texts with members of his staff, two months after the 2020 election and two days before the insurrecti­on at the Capitol building, about looking forward to not having to cover Trump.

Carlson: We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait.

Carlson: I hate him passionate­ly.

5. On the aftermath of the Capitol riots, Jan. 7, 2021

After the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, Carlson texts with Pfeiffer about Trump’s culpabilit­y in the insurrecti­on and how to deal with viewers who still support him. It was two weeks before the inaugurati­on of Biden.

Carlson: Trump has two weeks left. Once he’s out, he becomes incalculab­ly less powerful, even in the minds of his supporters.

Carlson: He’s a demonic force, a destroyer. But he’s not going to destroy us. I’ve been thinking about this every day for four years.

Pfeiffer: You’re right. I don’t want to let him destroy me either. [REDACTED]

The Trump anger spiral is vicious.

Carlson: That’s for sure. Deadly. It almost consumed me in November when Sidney Powell attacked us. It was very difficult to regain emotional control, but I knew I had to. We’ve got two weeks left. We can do this.

 ?? SETH WENIG / AP FILE (2022) ?? Tucker Carlson, left, and former President Donald Trump, right, are pictured
July 31, 2022, at the Bedminster Invitation­al LIV Golf tournament in Bedminster, N.J. A defamation lawsuit against Fox News is revealing blunt behind-the-scenes opinions by its top figures about Donald Trump, including a Carlson text message where he said “I hate him passionate­ly.”
SETH WENIG / AP FILE (2022) Tucker Carlson, left, and former President Donald Trump, right, are pictured July 31, 2022, at the Bedminster Invitation­al LIV Golf tournament in Bedminster, N.J. A defamation lawsuit against Fox News is revealing blunt behind-the-scenes opinions by its top figures about Donald Trump, including a Carlson text message where he said “I hate him passionate­ly.”

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