Los Angeles Times

Reddit deals with offensive posts

The online message board may cordon off some content into a hard- to- access area.

- By Andrea Chang and Daina Beth Solomon

After years of controvers­y over the vulgar and hate- f illed posts that populate Reddit, the online message board now may split the baby.

In an attempt to appease the offended and the offenders, the San Francisco company has proposed striking a delicate balance: prioritizi­ng the site’s constructi­ve content, banning some topics and cordoning off many problemati­c posts to their own, hard- to- access area.

Whether such a strategy would placate both sides or alienate everyone is the big unknown. Reddit has yet to make any concrete changes and asked users to weigh in.

Recently departed top executives have hinted at a deep crossroads at Reddit as it tries to spur strong user growth while maintainin­g its core principles as a freewheeli­ng site where anybody can say just about anything. Online media strategist­s say it will be difficult for Reddit to evolve and attract advertiser­s if it allows the online trolls to continue.

“Their tenuous, openended vagueness has become a tremendous liability,” said Finn Brunton, assistant professor of media, culture and communicat­ion at New York University.

Reddit, like the Internet

itself, grew out of its openness. Without much of a mission other than being a site to share links, it attracted people of all background­s. The site today has more than 36 million user accounts and nearly164 million monthly unique visitors.

But its ideal of being an anything- goes informatio­n hub has morphed into an identity crisis that is becoming increasing­ly hard to control. There are forums, or subreddits, f illed with pictures and videos of black people getting killed or already dead, and others dedicated to anti- gay hate speech; one subreddit is titled, “BeatingCri­pples.”

Some question whether it’s even worth keeping the worst offenders around given the damage they do to the company’s business and credibilit­y.

“You’re talking about folks that, by their nature, are bad behavers. They have tendencies for violence, they’re extremely bigoted,” said Rob Enderle, principal analyst at technology advisory f irm Enderle Group. “There’s a certain class of people you don’t want as customers; I’m thinking this is that class. Let other people deal with folks like this. It’s just not a winning propositio­n.”

The problem is that when Reddit has tried to crack down and police the site, it has provoked a f irestorm of anger.

A week ago, Ellen Pao stepped down as interim chief executive after enduring what she called “one of the largest trolling attacks in history.” Legions of Redditors had ceaselessl­y attacked Pao online after she banned the posting of “revenge porn” — when spurned exes post private nude photos of their former partners online — and shut down Reddit forums dedicated to insulting certain races or sexual orientatio­ns.

There was also an online petition calling for Pao’s resignatio­n that had reached about 213,000 signatures. Off icially, she blamed her de- parture on a disagreeme­nt with the board of directors.

Although Redditors proclaimed Pao’s exit a victory, Reddit is hardly saying it will let the site descend into anarchy. Instead, it has been trying to show it does not condone the darker corners of the site even as it continues to host such discussion­s in the name of free speech.

But it is clearly struggling with how to do that.

In a post on Reddit on Thursday, co- founder and newly reinstated CEO Steve Huffman proposed banning spam, illegal activity, publicatio­n of an individual’s private and confidenti­al informatio­n, harassment and bullying, and sexually suggestive content featuring minors. He also proposed getting rid of anything that incites harm or violence against an individual or group of people.

“It’s OK to say ‘ I don’t like this group of people,’” he wrote. “It’s not OK to say, “I’m going to kill this group of people.’ ”

Huffman also suggested separating certain kinds of content and making it hard to access. Adult content, he proposed, must be f lagged as NSFW ( not safe for work) and users must opt into seeing NSFW communitie­s.

He suggested the same be done for “content that violates a common sense of decency.” Such content would require a log- in, must be opted into and would not appear in search results or public listings.

“We’ve had the NSFW classifica­tion since nearly the beginning, and it’s worked well to separate the pornograph­y from the rest of Reddit,” Huffman said. “We believe there is value in letting all views exist, even if we find some of them abhorrent, as long as they don’t pollute people’s enjoyment of the site. Separation and opt- in techniques have worked well for keeping adult content out of the common Redditor’s listings, and we think it’ll work for this other type of content as well.”

Karen North, head of the Digital Social Media program at USC, said Reddit’s apparent move into a twopronged site is a strategy that has been adopted by other community- dominated Internet forums, such as Tumblr and Twitter.

And Huffman appears to be introducin­g the idea in a way that involves Redditors rather than telling them what to do. She noted that Huffman reached out to users for their thoughts on the site’s popular “Ask Me Anything” forum.

“He starts preaching transparen­cy, which is really what these people want,” North said.

The proposed moves to ban or contain deeply offensive content is likely also intended to keep least part of the site safe for advertiser­s, Brunton said. Segregatin­g content might let Reddit say: We’re not responsibl­e for the ugly stuff, and we’re keeping it separate.

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