Los Angeles Times

Clinton crams as Trump riffs before debate

Both campaigns are cagey about how they’re preparing for the highly anticipate­d, unpredicta­ble face-off.

- By Noah Bierman and Evan Halper

WASHINGTON — Ask Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump how they are preparing for the debate Monday that could upend the presidenti­al race, and they might just change the subject.

Their aides, of course, are handing them briefing books detailing where the cameras will be placed and what the price of milk is. They’re studying each other’s hand gestures and talking points on endless streams of video. They’re acting out scenarios designed to replicate the conditions onstage at Hofstra University.

The campaigns are cagey about preparatio­ns as they aim to lower expectatio­ns, refusing even to say who they’re using as stand-ins to role-play the other candidate, if anyone. But the nominees are leaving little to chance leading up to what is often the most dramatic, and least predictabl­e, moment in a presidenti­al campaign.

“It’s like preseason and regular season in football,” said Chip Englander, a GOP consultant who advised Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and then Florida Sen. Marco Rubio in the primary. “You can simulate, but there’s nothing like the real thing. Do I think it helps? Yes. Do I think it perfectly replicates it? No.”

Even the participan­ts are loath to predict how this 90minute spectacle, projected to break viewership records, will play out. “I do not know which Donald Trump will show up,” Clinton said during a fundraiser a few weeks ago.

The erratic bombthrowe­r? The restrained

statesman? The conspiracy theorist? Even Trump isn’t sure. “If she treats me with respect, I’ll treat her with respect,” Trump told Fox News. “You’re going to have to feel it out when you’re out there.”

Every one of his personas was present at the primary debates. Clinton has been scrutinizi­ng the footage, studying Trump’s mannerisms and reactions as rivals tried to bait, belittle and even befriend him.

A general-election debate is a very different arena. The nominees will tangle on the same stage for the first time. The kind of missteps during primary debates from which contenders quickly recover can prove devastatin­g, even disqualify­ing.

Both Clinton and Trump, candidates who are deeply disliked by the electorate, are confrontin­g what may be a final opportunit­y to redefine themselves. Clinton needs to overcome questions of trustworth­iness. Trump needs to overcome questions of instabilit­y.

“A real boring debate is a huge win for him,” said Barry Bennett, a former senior campaign advisor to Trump who ran Ben Carson’s campaign during last fall’s primary debates.

Veterans of the process say the best moments, the ones that could potentiall­y alter voters’ perception of the candidates, require preparatio­n. But it’s a delicate balance: Look like you’re trying too hard to stage a moment and it comes off as phony. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker bombed with his “We don’t need an ‘Apprentice’ in the White House” debate line, a play on the title of Trump’s reality TV show, before dropping out of the primaries.

“Sometimes you hear these things and you think, someone who thought he or she was too clever by half wrote that late at night, when they were too tired to think,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a longtime scholar of presidenti­al debates at the University of Pennsylvan­ia.

Both the schedules the candidates have kept in recent days and their past habits suggest Clinton is spending more time in debate cram sessions than Trump. But aides have told reporters that Trump has spent recent weekends prepping at his country club in Bedminster, N.J. His close circle of advisors includes Roger Ailes, who recently resigned his post at Fox News amid sexual harassment allegation­s and previously had a long career advising GOP presidenti­al candidates.

“The key to these things isn’t so much being able to answer the question, but being able to answer in 30 seconds, which is not human nature,” Bennett said. “Roger’s got a lifetime of doing that.”

Trump says he worries overdoing it on prep could cost him the spontaneit­y that has served him well. Clinton is expected to have multiple dress rehearsals. It is unclear whether Trump will have any.

Even so, mock debates have proved invaluable to other candidates. Rick Tyler, who portrayed Trump against Texas Sen. Ted Cruz during the primary, became a method actor for two weeks, trying to embody not only Trump’s rhetorical style but also his mannerisms and thinking. He recalled the room falling silent after his first performanc­e, during which he was combative, dismissive and ultimately victorious. It sobered some in the Cruz camp to the kind of threat Trump posed.

Tyler’s role was similar to that former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm took on when she helped Joe Biden prepare for his vice presidenti­al debate with Sarah Palin in 2008. Like Trump, Palin was unpredicta­ble and immune from some of the usual political rules.

“I had to get into her head and understand where she was coming from,” Granholm said. Even Palin’s weak grasp of policy was seen as a threat because Biden risked sounding too condescend­ing or too much a creature of the Beltway if he responded with Washington-speak. “We had to inoculate him. You never want to let anybody get under your skin during a debate.”

You also never want to sigh too much. Al Gore learned that the hard way when he came to his matchup with George W. Bush better prepared, but lost anyway.

“People watch this like they watch ‘Dancing With the Stars,’ ” said Chris Lehane, who helped prepare Gore for the debates. “If it were being scored like the Yale-Harvard debates, Gore would have won. But he did not win in terms of the campaign.”

Clinton’s advisors are preparing her to avoid that kind of misstep. One person who worked with Clinton for years said the most crucial prep work was not necessaril­y related to substance and policy, where she has less to prove, but tone, appearance and sense of humor.

Republican­s who have faced Trump offer advice. “Donald has a weakness. He does not want to be seen as uninformed or unintellig­ent or diminished in any way,” Tyler said. “It’s very tricky. You have to kind of mock him but you can’t diminish yourself while doing it.”

Other potential traps also lurk, such as the price of milk. Candidates who may not have bought a gallon of it in years better know what it costs. Lehane recalled how pre-debate briefing books he helped compile for Gore and Bill Clinton had a page full of such factoids. “You have to be ready for these gotcha questions designed to make you look out of touch,” he said.

And you also have to be prepared to look spontaneou­s.

What came off as one of the strongest impromptu takedowns in debate history, when Lloyd Bentsen eviscerate­d Dan Quayle during the 1988 vice presidenti­al debate, was actually the product of intense preparatio­n.

Bentsen so worried that the much younger and telegenic Quayle would school him that he tried to have the debate canceled, said his campaign manager, Tad Devine. In practice rounds, the stand-in for Quayle brushed off questions about his inexperien­ce by comparing himself to John F. Kennedy. Bentsen responded with crickets. His advisors didn’t give Bentsen a line to rehearse, but pushed him to consider that it was Bentsen who actually knew Kennedy from their years in the House of Representa­tives.

When the issue arose on debate night, Bentsen delivered a line that crippled Quayle’s public image.

“Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy,” Bentsen said. “I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.”

 ?? Matt Rourke Associated Press ?? FOR HILLARY CLINTON, the presidenti­al debate could be a chance to improve her image and overcome questions of trustworth­iness. But veterans of the process say too much preparatio­n can come off as phony.
Matt Rourke Associated Press FOR HILLARY CLINTON, the presidenti­al debate could be a chance to improve her image and overcome questions of trustworth­iness. But veterans of the process say too much preparatio­n can come off as phony.
 ?? Mark Wilson Getty Images ?? DONALD TRUMP, who faces questions of instabilit­y from voters, would benefit from having “a real boring debate,” said a former senior campaign advisor.
Mark Wilson Getty Images DONALD TRUMP, who faces questions of instabilit­y from voters, would benefit from having “a real boring debate,” said a former senior campaign advisor.

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