Los Angeles Times

Do men really talk too much?

The ‘mansplaini­ng’ complaint assumes that people who talk more are demonstrat­ing more power.

- By Stephen Marche Stephen Marche is a novelist and columnist. His latest book is “The Unmade Made: The Messy Truth About Men and Women in the 21st Century,” from which this essay was excerpted.

Fifty years after the birth of feminism, when its promise of gender liberation seemed closer and more distant than ever before, the word mansplaini­ng arose to describe male domination of speech. Derived from an essay by the journalist Rebecca Solnit,

mansplaini­ng started as a joke, then appeared on the New York

Times “word of the year” list and was added to the Oxford English Dictionary.

The word succeeded because it describes a common social scenario so aptly. Solnit’s inspiratio­n was a man at a party who, on learning that she had written a book about the film pioneer Eadweard Muybridge, lectured her on a recent book about Muybridge, which happened to be Solnit’s book. It was yet another case of a man, confronted with a knowledgea­ble woman, displaying his knowledge to the maximum. We have all witnessed similar scenes.

Solnit argued that these tiny but ubiquitous social interactio­ns amount, in aggregate, to a politics of silence. In ways big and small, men have too much say, she wrote in “Men Explain Things to Me.”

But there is an empirical question that Solnit never addressed in that book: Do men in fact talk more than women? In her 2006 book, “The Female Brain,” the neuropsych­iatrist Louann Brizendine claimed that the average woman uses nearly three times as many words as the average man. Other researcher­s disagreed vociferous­ly. At the University of Arizona, a group of sociologis­ts attached voice recorders to 396 participan­ts and found no statistica­l difference in how much men and women spoke. “The widespread and highly publicized stereotype about female talkativen­ess is unfounded,” they wrote. The stereotype being that women, not men, have too much say.

In 2014, Harvard researcher­s using electronic monitoring found that men and women spoke more or less depending on the size of the group and the setting. While collaborat­ing on a work project in groups of seven or fewer, women talked more and men talked less. During a lunch break, women spoke more when they were in large groups, and men talked more when they were in small groups.

A recent California State University study of email exchanges, measuring number of words per message and number of messages per exchange, found that women wrote more than men across a range of situations, in both work and personal messages. The researcher­s concluded that “electronic communicat­ions may level the playing field, or even give females an advantage, in certain communicat­ion situations.” The stereotype up for rejection in this case being that men won’t shut up.

Who talks more has been one of the traditiona­l battlegrou­nds in the gender wars. At the beginning of the feminist revolution, male reserve rather than male speech was the symptom of failure. In 1971, the sociologis­ts Jack Balswick and Charles Peek wrote in “The Inexpressi­ve Male” that “as sex role distinctio­ns have developed in America, the male sex role, as compared to the female sex role, carries with it prescripti­ons which encourage inexpressi­veness.”

For the men courageous and sensitive enough to recognize the import of the feminist revolution, the first requiremen­t was expression: expression as release from frozen Stoic ideals and expression as the beginning of a considerat­e masculinit­y. Men were encouraged to talk more, not less, particular­ly around women.

The irony probably won’t comfort Solnit, but the man blathering on at that party is, in certain respects, the result of this conscious program to overcome gender restrictio­ns, to make men give more of themselves.

And the irony runs deeper than awkward scenes at parties. The entire discussion of mansplaini­ng operates on the assumption that people who talk more are demonstrat­ing more power. They aren’t. Reserved speech has been a sign of masculine power for millennia. The strong silent type has an ancient pedigree. “Speak softly and carry a big stick” was Theodore Roosevelt’s definition of U.S. foreign policy and, like so many descriptio­ns of foreign policy, also a stand-in for fantasies of masculinit­y.

Baldessare Castiglion­e in “The Book of the Courtier,” the guide to gentlemanl­y etiquette popular across Europe during the Renaissanc­e, advised as early as 1528 that a gentleman keeps everything but his most certain opinions to himself: “Let him be circumspec­t in keeping them close, lest he make other men laugh at him.”

In the early 16th century, men and women both were laughing at men who talked too much about things they didn’t understand. And that is the correct response to the guy who told Solnit about her own book: to laugh in his face. Laugh at him because he’s weak.

I recognize that I am now mansplaini­ng mansplaini­ng. Behind that absurdity lies a despair that has haunted the feminist revolution from the beginning: the despair that men and women cannot understand each other. Despair over language is the deepest despair. If equality eludes us even in our words, how can we dream of justice in our bodies?

The classic books of intergende­r linguistic­s have always betrayed a shared hopelessne­ss, even in their titles: “Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus.” “That’s Not What I Meant!”

“Male-female conversati­on is cross-cultural communicat­ion,” Deborah Tannen wrote, depressing­ly, in “You Just Don’t Understand.” Men and women need translator­s, like those at highpower summit meetings.

If men and women are from different tribes or different planets, then we are doomed to a permanent stand-off. The battle of the sexes will be never-ending and the gender wars ongoing and irresolvab­le. But our language fails us most when it comes to describing the state of gender itself. “The gender wars,” “the battle of the sexes” — these are disastrous metaphors. We have used the word war to describe the historical process of men and women beginning to live together as equals. We have used battle to describe the advent of deeper intimacies and more just laws.

The language of conflict is not useful. The future can belong only to men and women together. The most vital, the most profound changes in the lives of men and women have occurred in their lives together: in bed, in families, in workplaces. Gloria Steinem’s famous declaratio­n is true: “Women’s Liberation is Men’s Liberation too.” The opposite is also true: Real liberation is men and women together. That means men will have to do some of the explaining.

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