Los Angeles Times

Now discussing ethnicity

Nominee Antonio Banderas is variously listed as white, Hispanic, Latino. So, which?

- By Daniel Hernandez

If Antonio Banderas wins the Academy Award on Sunday for his leading performanc­e in the Pedro Almodóvar film “Pain and Glory,” would it count as a win for people of color?

The question might have sounded puzzling even a year ago, but with ever-explosive debates on identity and authorship in popular culture (see the publishing industry scandal over “American Dirt”), the question of Banderas’ proper demographi­c designatio­n became relevant with the arrival of the 2020 Academy Awards.

When the nomination­s were announced on Jan. 13, some news outlets declared that Banderas was a “person of color” along with lead actress and original song nominee Cynthia Erivo (“Harriet”), perhaps seeking a silver lining to the dismally monochroma­tic acting nomination­s. Banderas’ demo was quickly called into question by those who pointed out that the actor was born in Spain.

Banderas’ performanc­e as Salvador Mallo, a film director who salves intense physical pain with nostalgic flashbacks and hard drugs, already won him the best actor award at the Cannes Film Festival, but don’t expect all of U.S. Latinidad to embrace him as one of their own if he wins the Oscar.

The topic is a reflection of the ever-shifting currents of our language of identity, where racial and gender labels are simultaneo­usly intensely guarded and intensely questioned, often in real time on social media. The terms “Hispanic” and “Latino,” for example, are generally interchang­eable in the U.S., yet in some circles they’ve become starkly different things.

“I don’t think Antonio Banderas qualifies as a person of color. I think he’s a wonderful person and a wonderful actor, but he’s European,” said Claudia Puig, president of the Los Angeles Film Critics Assn., echoing common refrains heard initially online. “Yes, he is Hispanic, because he’s from Spain, but he’s not from Latin America, so he’s not Latino.”

Puig and others contend that the distinctio­n is a crucial one. In recent years, studies of diversity among academy ranks and awardees usually lump actors and filmmakers from Spanish-speaking countries with “Hispanic” or “Latino” tallies, which some argue sidelines the still deeply underrepre­sented contributi­ons to film of U.S.-born Latinos.

Officially, Banderas is designated as Hispanic or Latino by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences. The academy allows members to self-identify when marking their race or ethnicity, a spokespers­on said. So which is it? Banderas himself addressed the topic on national Spanish-language television recently, speaking in a recorded call to Univision anchor Jorge Ramos.

“I know what I am; I am absolutely not bothered if I am considered to belong to a group of color,” Banderas said from his hometown of Málaga, where he recently closed a stage production of “A Chorus Line.” “When I am in the United States, I have considered myself Latino, because they are the people who I communicat­e with, who are my friends and speak my language.”

The actor gained mainstream prominence in the United States for his brawny performanc­es in the pulpy Robert Rodriguez franchise of “El Mariachi,” starting with the English-language “Desperado” in 1995, in which he plays an overtly Latin type who wields a machine gun hidden in a mariachi guitar case.

But the actor had by then already establishe­d a Hollywood presence without punching in the Latino tropes, including Englishspe­aking roles in “Interview With the Vampire,” opposite Brad Pitt, and in “Philadelph­ia,” with Oscar winner Tom Hanks.

But few of Banderas’ roles are regarded as memorably as his performanc­es in Spanish-language films by Almodóvar, starting with 1988’s “Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown.” They’ve made seven films together since, mooring both men deeply in the canon of Spain’s cinema.

In 2015, Banderas, whose managers did not make the actor available to comment for this article, delivered an impassione­d manifesto for a kind of pan-Latino, panIberian unity in the global film industry while accepting an honorary award at the Premios Platino.

“We all love our country of origin, but we can without a doubt embrace the idea of the Latin and be proud of being Hispanics,” Banderas said. “No one will value us if we don’t do it ourselves first.”

Banderas’ comments hinted at how muddled the question of identity has become, even for Spaniards. In the speech, he introduced himself first as a native of Málaga, which he declared made him partly “Phoenician, Muslim, Roman and Picassian” (the Andalusian city is is deeply Islamic and Arabic in historical influence). He saluted the “Latin communitie­s” with which he shared not just a language but a “desire to dream,” and called for greater representa­tion for all groups. He enumerated how many films he’s made in each of the Latin American countries where he’s worked.

“Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to Hispanics what is ours,” Banderas said.

But current tastemaker­s aren’t entirely on board with the Banderas doctrine.

In a New York Times op-ed responding to this year’s perceived snub of Jennifer Lopez in “Hustlers,” L.A.-based film critic Carlos Aguilar argued that including foreign-born, Spanish-speaking actors in diversity or representa­tion numbers in the media risks erasing the struggles and discrimina­tion often faced by U.S.-born Latinos, such as Mexican Americans and Puerto Ricans.

For the past decade, it seemed significan­t progress was made, if visibility for Mexican-born Latino artists is weighed. The prizewinni­ng directors known as the “Three Amigos,” referring to Alfonso Cuarón, Guillermo del Toro and Alejandro González Iñárritu, have won five of the last six Oscars for directing but are not in the running this year. Do these celebrated directors from south of the border represent U.S.-born Mexican Americans in the same way? Some argue they don’t.

“Because they had all these great films for all these years, they became the symbol of Latino representa­tion,” Aguilar said of the Mexican directors. “But now that no [Latino] got nominated, it takes off that Band-Aid. … It’s not the same being from Latin America as being a Latino from the United States.”

A deeper question at play is the fact that the boundaries in all these labels are constantly changing, from Hispanic (popular on the East Coast, shunned on the West Coast) to Latinx (the genderneut­ral, digital-native term preferred by younger groups and in academia).

Broadly speaking, some of these debates are for naught. A majority of U.S. Latinos profess no preference between “Hispanic” and “Latino” when self-identifyin­g, according to the Pew Research Center. Those who did overwhelmi­ngly chose “Hispanic,” the nonpartisa­n data clearingho­use says.

Murkier still, Pew has found that an estimated 5 million people in the United States have Hispanic or Latino heritage (when specifical­ly asked) but do not identify with either term. In addition, some 37% of U.S. Latinos decline to pick one of the five standard racial designatio­ns, choosing instead “some other race” when marking their background.

It all comes down to self-identifica­tion, said Ana Gonzalez-Barrera, a senior researcher for Pew in Washington, and self-identifica­tion is subjective.

“We’ve never sat down and said, ‘This is it,’ ” Gonzalez-Barrera said, in regard to an ultimate demographi­c definition of the group it surveys. “We allow people to tell us, we don’t impose that.”

Even national origin has become a matter of perspectiv­e.

“There are a lot of gray areas,” said Aguilar, who was born in Mexico and is a DACA recipient. “I would say a lot of Dreamers or undocument­ed people might see themselves as U.S. Latinos, even if they were born outside of the country.”

Banderas’ identity notwithsta­nding, advocates of greater representa­tion for Latinos or Hispanics say that despite the gains in recent years (including last year’s lead actress nomination for indigenous Oaxacan actress Yalitza Aparicio for “Roma”), much more needs to be done to move the needle overall. U.S. Hispanics “overindex” at the box office but remain woefully underrepre­sented in front of and behind the camera, industry players pointed out.

“I think it’s an off year for us,” said Benjamin Lopez, executive director of NALIP, the National Associatio­n of Latino Independen­t Producers.

“We know the pitfalls, and the structural issues to build that pipeline of talent, which can lead to nomination­s not being forthcomin­g, especially in a year like this,” Lopez added. He also pointed to the Lopez snub, as well as to Kenyan Mexican star Lupita Nyong’o (born in Mexico City, and a Spanish speaker) being ignored for Jordan Peele’s “Us.” “It’s disconcert­ing to know that inclusivit­y was not prioritize­d, especially on performanc­es,” Lopez said.

On Univision, Banderas, who is 59 and now lives in England, described memories of filling out his first demographi­c forms when he began working in the United States with “white” but being told he should mark “Hispanic.” This confused him, he said, because that didn’t sound like a race category.

But Banderas went with it, he recalled, and he seems to embrace the confusion. “I’m happy to be Hispanic, happy to be a Spaniard, happy to be Latino,” the actor said on Univision with a shrug.

 ?? Jay L. Clendenin Los Angeles Times ?? “I’M HAPPY to be Hispanic, happy to be a Spaniard, happy to be Latino,” actor Antonio Banderas recently told Univision anchor Jorge Ramos during an interview.
Jay L. Clendenin Los Angeles Times “I’M HAPPY to be Hispanic, happy to be a Spaniard, happy to be Latino,” actor Antonio Banderas recently told Univision anchor Jorge Ramos during an interview.
 ?? El Deseo/Sony Pictures Classics ?? AN OSCAR nomination for Pedro Almodóvar’s “Pain and Glory” put Banderas in the conversati­on.
El Deseo/Sony Pictures Classics AN OSCAR nomination for Pedro Almodóvar’s “Pain and Glory” put Banderas in the conversati­on.

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