Los Angeles Times

The facts vs. what they said at debate

Pence perpetuate­s false claims by Trump. Harris dodges query about Supreme Court.

- By Matt Pearce

Pence bolsters the president’s false claims, and Harris dodges a key question.

After President Trump repeatedly disrupted last week’s f irst presidenti­al debate against Democratic rival Joe Biden with a near-nonstop f lurry of jeers and lies, Wednesday night’s vice presidenti­al debate between their ticket- mates offered viewers a more traditiona­l and, on balance, fact- based encounter.

However, Vice President Mike Pence echoed many of the president’s misleading and false claims on a slew of topics. California Sen. Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee, stuck closer to the facts, but she dodged a key question.

1. No, Trump did not ban all travel from China as the pandemic began.

Pence is overstatin­g what Trump did in the pandemic’s early days. The president’s Jan. 31 order applied to the Chinese mainland only, not Hong Kong, and tens of thousands of American travelers were allowed to return. Screening was spotty, and the outbreak took hold in the United States anyway. The day after Trump’s announceme­nt, Biden tweeted that “we need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fearmonger­ing.” He did not mention the ban.

2. No, the Trump administra­tion isn’t protecting coverage for preexistin­g medical conditions.

If there’s a Trump plan to protect insurance coverage for people with preexistin­g medical conditions, the public hasn’t seen it. The president has spent years trying to undermine the law that currently guarantees coverage.

Administra­tion lawyers and a coalition of Republican- led states have gone to the Supreme Court asking it to strike down the 2010 Affordable Care Act, the Obama- era law that included the protection for those with preexistin­g ailments. Trump and Republican­s in Congress tried and failed to repeal the law in 2017. Trump, facing criticism, signed an executive order on Sept. 24 promising “a steadfast commitment to always protecting individual­s with preexistin­g conditions.” Substantiv­ely, it has no effect.

3. No, Biden’s plan wouldn’t raise taxes on middle- class families.

Pence made the remark while talking about Biden’s proposal to repeal Trump’s tax cuts enacted in late 2017. While most Americans saw their taxes go down, the benefits went overwhelmi­ngly to the richest Americans and corporatio­ns. The vice president mischaract­erized Biden’s plan, which would not raise taxes on earners making less than $ 400,000 a year. Biden would repeal the Trump tax cuts for those making more than that.

4. Comparing the COVID- 19 pandemic to the swine f lu outbreak in 2009 is off- base.

Pence cited the last pandemic, the H1N1 “swine f lu” outbreak during the Obama administra­tion in 2009, to argue that the Trump administra­tion has done a better job of handling the novel coronaviru­s crisis. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, between April 2009 and April 2010 there were 60.8 million H1N1 cases and 12,469 deaths in the United States, for a fatality rate of 0.02%. The coronaviru­s outbreak has infected more than 7,549,429 Americans and killed 211,793 this year, for a fatality rate of 2.8%, according to the Johns Hopkins University tracker.

Pence misleading­ly extrapolat­ed from COVID- 19’ s higher lethality to suggest its death toll is somehow comparable to that from swine f lu. But the viruses are very different, and so the public health response was as well. The H1N1 f lu was closer to the seasonal f lu, which infects millions of Americans a year and kills thousands as a matter of course. The closest comparison to the coronaviru­s is the 1918 inf luenza pandemic that killed an estimated 675,000 Americans. 5. It’s true: Harris wouldn’t answer a ‘ court- packing’ question.

Pence is right that Harris declined to say whether a President Biden would support enlarging the nine- member Supreme Court to dilute its conservati­ve majority. Instead of answering the moderator’s question — and Pence’s — she attacked Republican­s for trying to fill the vacancy created by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death. Never before has a justice been confirmed so close to a presidenti­al election. Biden, too, has ducked the question about what Pence and Republican­s call “court-packing.”

The vice president was wrong, however, in characteri­zing the idea of adding seats to the Supreme Court as a Democratic Party plan. Many Democrats in Congress are wary of it.

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