Los Angeles Times

A SLIDING SCALE

Head first? Feet first? Quarterbac­ks like Herbert weigh protecting themselves against going for yardage when they take off running

- By Sam Farmer

Justin Herbert, with his smooth throwing motion and surgical precision, has proved he’s a top- notch NFL passer.

Now, the 6- foot- 6 Chargers rookie needs to work on his going- to- the- ground game.

He took off running in his f irst game and clobbered Kansas City linebacker Damien Wilson when they collided near the sideline. Whereas Herbert nonchalant­ly popped to his feet, Wilson appeared knocked out cold.

Two weeks later, Herbert tore off a f ive- yard run against Tampa Bay and lowered his shoulder on Buccaneers safety Jordan Whitehead. This time, the defensive player got the better of the crash, as Herbert needed a few moments with his hands on his knees to compose himself. Whitehead was f lagged for unnecessar­y roughness.

“Feet- first sliding is probably the best option I should go with,” Herbert conceded later. “I grew up playing baseball so I feel like I’m pretty comfortabl­e with sliding. It’s a little tough on the grass, your cleats get stuck a little bit, but it’s definitely something I’ve been practicing. Moving forward, I’ll be better about it.”

Chargers coach Anthony Lynn hopes so. He could be forgiven for watching replays of those collisions through his fingers while covering his eyes.

“Bad coaching by me right there, bad coaching,” Lynn said. “I don’t want him taking hits like that, like he did from the Chiefs. … I want him to get down. I don’t want him to take those hits in the National Football League.”

Theoretica­lly, Herbert could look across town for pointers from another young quarterbac­k. The Rams’ Jared Goff, the son of a former Major League Baseball player, has had sliding issues of his own.

In the two years since the NFL made a rule change — stipulatin­g a quarterbac­k doesn’t have to slide feet first to be considered giving himself up, and instead is afforded the same defenseles­s-player protection­s when he dives forward — Goff has found himself getting “caught in between sometimes.”

“I’m used to going feet first, and I have my whole career,” Goff said. “And then in the last year or two, I want to go head f irst. I don’t want to lose those three yards. But at the same time, you’re kind of trying to f igure out where your momentum is.”

His father, Jerry Goff, who played catcher in the majors for six years, wishes his son would hit the deck more often, yet understand­s why he doesn’t always do so.

“Do I encourage him to slide? Yeah, 100%,” the elder Goff said. “But there are times, like he did in the playoffs against Dallas, and a few times in college, where you’ve just got to deal with it and go get that f irst down. You’re not going to slide short in that situation. But I would say 90% or more, you’re just going to slide and play the next down.”

The dilemma is older than Red Grange. Should a quarterbac­k risk injury by f ighting for that extra yard, either by dropping a shoulder and delivering a blow, or by diving forward as a human missile?

Or should he sacrifice that extra yard or two and safely slide feet first?

“We’ve got to coach these quarterbac­ks out of the macho- man approach,” said Hall of Fame personnel executive Bill Polian, who thinks all NFL teams should build sliding pits at their facilities to teach quarterbac­ks. “Playoffs are one thing; that’s a different cat altogether. But in terms of the regular season, never lower your shoulder. Don’t take those kinds of blows. The rule is there to protect you: Go slide.”

Sometimes, even sliding feet f irst is unsafe. Last Saturday, Clemson quarterbac­k Trevor Lawrence, the overwhelmi­ng favorite to go No. 1 in next spring ’s NFL draft, took a shot to the helmet from Miami safety Amari Carter while sliding. Officials ejected Carter for targeting.

In 2006, Kansas City quarterbac­k Trent Green absorbed a brutal hit to the head from Cincinnati defensive end Robert Geathers while sliding feet first. Green suffered a serious concussion and the replay reverberat­ed throughout the league.

“I remember being like, ‘ Yeah, see? I don’t want that to happen. I would rather dive head first, I’m in control of my head,’ ” recalled former Seattle Seahawks quarterbac­k Matt Hasselbeck, who took a ribbing from his coaches about his aversion to sliding. “I sort of remember being made fun of by Mike Holmgren and Jim Zorn about how I didn’t

slide, like I couldn’t slide.”

So Zorn, the former Seahawks quarterbac­k who later coached the position for the team, unfurled a Slip ’ N Slide at practice in hopes of teaching his passers how to avoid big hits by gracefully going to the ground. He even brought in Seattle Mariners f irst baseman John Olerud as a sliding tutor. “The thing was, we knew how to slide,” Hasselbeck said. “It wasn’t like we didn’t know. We just preferred to dive.”

According to NFL rules, a defender must pull up when a runner gives himself up with a feet- first slide. If a defender already has committed himself and makes unavoidabl­e contact with the sliding runner, it is not a foul unless the defender makes forcible contact to the head or neck area of the runner with the helmet, shoulder or forearm, or commits some other act that is unnecessar­ily rough.

But the runner bears the responsibi­lity of starting his slide with ample time for the defender to pull up and avoid the hit.

“Pursuing a guy, I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he was going to slide,” former Rams defensive tackle D’Marco Farr said. “But you’d better start that slide within two or three steps of me. Make it obvious. If not, I’m going to treat you as a runner that’s attacking my goal line, which means I’m going to try to knock your teeth out.”

The notion of sliding never appealed to Hall of Fame quarterbac­k Steve Young, but not because he sought those extra yards at all costs. He just didn’t feel that sliding provided him enough protection.

“My own philosophy was sliding was a nightmare,” Young said. “Sliding is saying, ‘ Just hit me in the face.’ I always thought it was much safer to go forward, f ind a soft spot forward.”

What’s more, Young said, officials routinely get the placement of the ball wrong when a player slides feet first.

“Inevitably, the referee gives you a spot farther back than you thought it would be, or than it should be,” he said. “It’s a weird thing. I don’t know what sliding does that creates this image that the ball’s downed earlier than it was.

“I always thought I got a better spot when I was going forward. It’s like an optical illusion for them. When I slid, nine times out of 10 I’d turn around and say, ‘ Where are you marking that? That’s not right.’ ”

Not surprising­ly, some of the quarterbac­ks who had the option of playing pro baseball — notably Seattle’s Russell Wilson and Arizona’s Kyler Murray — are the most graceful sliders.

“I think playing multiple sports is a very big thing in terms of getting those extra yards, also being smart, getting down,” Wilson, selected in two MLB drafts, told reporters in 2017. “The ability to quickly slide too. When you hit a ball in the gap, you’ve got to get to second base and get there fast. You’ve got to know where to slide, how to get around the tag and everything else.

“I don’t really like sliding head f irst, never did when I was playing baseball. But sometimes it’s necessary. … You’ve got to be smart in how you do it.”

Not everyone is a pretty slider. Peyton Manning got an earful from his Denver teammates in 2012 when he clomped downfield against Carolina, then executed a hideous slide — think Evel Knievel at Caesars Palace — that excavated a sizable divot when his left knee brace burrowed into the turf.

“It’s not even worth explaining what happened,” Manning told reporters at the time. “It looked bad, and the fact that my knee brace got caught, nobody wants to hear that. It is what it is, as they say, and it’s right there on f ilm. I’m very aware that it’s fair game for criticism and ridicule.”

In those hold- yourbreath bashes of bodies, it’s frequently the quarterbac­k who comes away staggering. There’s a reason for that.

“Justin Herbert does no tackling. None,” Young said. “And then he’s running into people where that’s all they do is tackle.

“I used to see smaller guys in the defensive backf ield, and I was like, ‘ OK, I can take that guy on.’ But you’ve got to remember, even those guys, that’s all they do is tackle.”

When and whether a quarterbac­k should slide often depends on where you’re standing, as in, which sideline.

“When it’s your own guy, you want him to get down,” Farr said. “When Kurt Warner scrambled, I’d be the f irst one yelling, ‘ Get down!’ And I would tell him, ‘ Your body doesn’t belong to you, it belongs to us.’ If he gets tagged, it affects us all.”

Young’s philosophy: Your most important play is your next one. “Risks just to show your manhood don’t help you get to the next play,” he said. “The truth is, if you’ve still got the ball in your hand, there’s been a general failure anyway. Don’t compound it by trying to run over somebody to impress someone.”

After Herbert’s debut, while the Chargers and Chiefs were mingling on the f ield, Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes offered him some words of advice: “Protect yourself on some of those runs.”

Sometimes, staying up requires getting down.

‘ My own philosophy was sliding was a nightmare. Sliding is saying, “Just hit me in the face.” I always thought it was much safer to go forward.’ — Steve Young, Hall of Fame quarterbac­k

 ?? Peter Joneleit Associated Press ?? THE CHARGERS’ Justin Herbert, scrambling in his NFL debut last month, learned a hard lesson in Week 4.
Peter Joneleit Associated Press THE CHARGERS’ Justin Herbert, scrambling in his NFL debut last month, learned a hard lesson in Week 4.
 ?? Julio Cortez Associated Press ?? PEYTON MANNING ( 18) got grief from teammates for a terrible- looking slide in a 2012 game for Denver.
Julio Cortez Associated Press PEYTON MANNING ( 18) got grief from teammates for a terrible- looking slide in a 2012 game for Denver.

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