Los Angeles Times

History, memory and rethinking it all

Through art and an events series, Gary Simmons ponders our perception­s of race.

- By Leigh-Ann Jackson

On April 9, under a blistering sun, poet Yesika Salgado recited tender odes to her childhood and scorching takedowns of former lovers in between passionate Spanish-language verses belted by balladeer San Cha. The two L.A.-based acts performed as part of the Black Ark series, a slate of free, public, live events set in the outdoor courtyard of the Hauser & Wirth gallery complex.

Salgado’s poems delved into a lifetime of memories, making for a perfect complement to the work of artist Gary Simmons, whose sculptural installati­on “Recapturin­g Memories of the Black Ark” serves as the event stage. By the end of the performanc­e, Simmons stood on the front row, applauding fervently.

“It was amazing! It was so hard-hitting,” he says. “This is exactly what I wanted to have happen on the Ark. That’s what the Ark represents: Do your thing!”

He created the circulatin­g performanc­e space in 2014, using scrap materials found in New Orleans in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. During the work’s early 2022 residency in the Arts District courtyard, dance icon Savion Glover has tapped across the wooden stage and Simmons’ teen daughter delivered an original monologue. For the May 21 series finale, KCRW’s Elvis Mitchell will join Simmons onstage for a Q&A.

The Ark serves as a companion piece to “Rememberin­g Tomorrow,” a collection of drawings, paintings and sculptures installed inside Hauser & Wirth’s two north galleries through May 22. These works explore race, identity and nostalgia. Using 1930s animated characters Bosko and Honey as primary muses, and employing a lineblurri­ng erasure technique that has become his calling card, Simmons both wipes away and calls attention to racist imagery of the past.

We spoke with Simmons about the joint installati­ons and the importance of contextual­izing memories. This conversati­on has been edited for length and clarity.

How did the Black Ark performanc­e space come to be?

Originally, the Ark was made for a show in New Orleans, Prospect. I love New Orleans. There’s nobody that matches those folks as far as strength, pride and beauty. The devastatio­n still exists in places like the Tremé. I was really drawn to the beauty of the trauma. I wanted to do something with the shards and remains of what was left from Katrina and make something positive out of it. I decided to make this sound system that would be a platform for other creative folks to perform on. I really just wanted to provide this sculptural space that is activated by other artists.

What do you feel is the link between the outside structure and the exhibition inside the gallery?

In a lot of ways, this show is almost like a museum show because you have a sampler of pretty much every form that I work in. It starts with drawing, goes into painting in different sizes and scale, then it goes into those massive wall drawings. And then you end with the object, which is the cafeteria tables. Then you come outside and the Ark really activates the courtyard. It’s like this controlled, almost park environmen­t, and when there’s a performanc­e, it really becomes this intimate space between the performer and the audience. I love the exchange.

I would say that the common theme between inside and outside is exchange. It’s all about that kind of free flow between artist and audience.

How did you come to incorporat­e cartoon characters like Honey and Bosko into your work?

It was a progressio­n. I was interested in making a film early on. I wasn’t sure what kind, but I knew I wanted to work with education — how children are taught, how they learn. I started to think about the cartoons that parents would sit you down in front of then walk away, almost letting the television babysit you.

I was looking at “Dumbo.” The crows had this prominent role in teaching Dumbo how to fly, but they were highly racialized and very stereotypi­cal. I talked to a cross-section of different people about their memories of “Dumbo” and I realized that the memories kind of broke down along racial lines. And I thought, “Wow, this is very interestin­g that people that look like me remember the racialized racist images and white folks didn’t.”

I started drawing cartoons on a chalkboard surface, then erasing them, or attempting to erase them. The chalkboard represente­d education, learning, teaching and bits of nostalgia. I was drawn to Bosko because there’s such a closeness to Mickey Mouse. I started to work with Bosko somewhere in the mid-’90s, to do this attempt at erasing a stereotype. Speed forward. I looked at some of that earlier work and started to realize I’m not really done with that area of exploratio­n.

Memory is an important part of your work. What emotions do those bits of nostalgia evoke in you?

I’m not entirely sure that every single one of those cartoons were meant with some nefarious undertone to them. I still look at Bugs Bunny cartoons. Are they funny? Hell, yeah! But at the same time, there’s jungle bunnies and all kinds of harsh stuff. Yes, they are racist, but I don’t think that they were intended to make people feel bad about themselves, necessaril­y. I think it’s a lot more complex than that. You have to put it into context.

That’s the teeth of [my] work, this attempt at erasing that stereotype, that pain, that anger, that rage. That’s what that blurring is all about. It hovers between the representa­tion of the image and the abstractio­n. That’s why I feel that work is so powerful; it creates that sort of uncertaint­y. There’s those slippages and traces that exist that call on the viewer to complete the visual circuitry and the conceptual circuitry — their relationsh­ip to those images, whether it be guilt or horror or whatever it is. The work forces you to go down certain parts of memory lane. It nudges you into rethinking how certain images came into your life, what they meant and what they mean now.

 ?? Jeff McLane Hauser & Wirth ?? INSIDE the Hauser & Wirth exhibition of Gary Simmons’ art. “The work forces you to go down certain parts of memory lane,” he says.
Jeff McLane Hauser & Wirth INSIDE the Hauser & Wirth exhibition of Gary Simmons’ art. “The work forces you to go down certain parts of memory lane,” he says.
 ?? Tito Molina Hauser & Wirth ?? SIMMONS takes a long, hard look at stereotype­s. “That’s the teeth of [my] work.”
Tito Molina Hauser & Wirth SIMMONS takes a long, hard look at stereotype­s. “That’s the teeth of [my] work.”

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