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GOP’S Mccarthy risks Trump backlash on ‘you should resign’ audio

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House Republican Leader Kevin Mccarthy sought to head off backlash within the party that could dash his hopes of becoming speaker next year after an audio tape exposed he told colleagues he’d urge the then-president Donald Trump to resign after last year’s Capitol insurrecti­on.

In the audio recorded four days after the Jan. 6, 2021 riot by a mob of Trump supporters, Mccarthy can be heard telling fellow Republican­s during a leadership call that he planned to discuss with Trump the Democratic effort to impeach and remove him from office. It was posted late Thursday by the New York Times and aired on Rachel Maddow’s MSNBC show.

“The only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass, and it would be my recommenda­tion you should resign,” Mccarthy says in the recording, which was first reported by the

New York Times and has not been independen­tly verified by Bloomberg.

The key for Mccarthy and Republican­s will be the reaction of Trump, who wields considerab­le influence in the party.

Trump and Mccarthy spoke after the audio was released and the former president wasn’t upset about Mccarthy’s remarks, the Washington Post reported on Friday, citing unnamed people familiar with the conversati­on.

Mccarthy’s office didn’t immediatel­y respond on Friday to a request for comment.

Mccarthy tweeted a denial of the New York Times story posted earlier in the day before the audio was broadcast. He called the report “totally false and wrong.”

Mccarthy ultimately voted with 147 other Republican­s against certifying presidenti­al election results from some states, backing Trump’s false claim that he lost the 2020 race because of fraud. He also later voted against Trump’s impeachmen­t.

Still, the tape could have ramificati­ons for Mccarthy’s hold on House GOP leadership and aspiration­s to become speaker if Republican­s win a House majority in the November midterm elections.

Mccarthy’s ascension to speaker already was no sure thing. He made a bid for the speakershi­p in 2015, when John Boehner stepped down from the role, and he was next in line. But Paul Ryan was selected instead.

So far, most House Republican­s have withheld commenting on the recording of Mccarthy’s remarks. There are numerous examples of Republican­s who criticized Trump in the past but have stayed in his good graces by demonstrat­ing loyalty.

Mccarthy has publicly treaded lightly on matters that could draw Trump’s scrutiny, since he initially issued a rebuke of Trump on Jan. 6, declaring on the House floor that the former president “bears responsibi­lity” for the mob attack on the Capitol.

The House panel investigat­ing the insurrecti­on, in requesting Mccarthy’s testimony, cited comments the GOP leader made to CBS about his call with Trump while the mob swarmed the Capitol.

“I told him he needs to talk to the nation. I told him what was happening right then,” Mccarthy said in that exchange. “I was very clear with the president when I called him. This has to stop and he has to go to the American public and tell them to stop this.”

But Representa­tive

Jaime Herrera Beutler, a Washington State Republican, said Mccarthy relayed to her a slightly different account of the call at the time. Her statement was entered into the official record of Trump’s second impeachmen­t trial last January.

“When Mccarthy finally reached the president on Jan. 6 and asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the riot, the president initially repeated the falsehood that it was antifa that had breached the Capitol,” the statement said. “Mccarthy refuted that and told the president that these were Trump supporters. That’s when, according to Mccarthy, the president said: ‘Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.’”

Mccarthy has refused to cooperate with the House committee investigat­ing the Jan. 6 insurrecti­on, denying requests for an interview. He also has met with Trump since then and has made other public expression­s of loyalty to the former president. Mccarthy endorsed the opponent of GOP Representa­tive

Liz Cheney, a persistent Trump critic, in Wyoming’s Republican primary.

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