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Hearings unveiled several surprises

- BY SARAH D. WIRE Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON

Twelve witnesses, dozens of hours of testimony and thousands of pages of documents — all spread over five long days of historic impeachmen­t hearings.

The House is weighing whether to bring articles of impeachmen­t against President Donald Trump for pushing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to open investigat­ions into Trump’s political enemies, including an energy company that once employed the son of former Vice President Joe Biden and a debunked conspiracy theory that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 U.S. election.

Without a public announceme­nt that Ukraine would open the investigat­ions, Trump refused to agree to a White House meeting with Zelenskiy. Trump also blocked the release of nearly $400 million in congressio­nally approved aid to help Ukraine fight its war over Russia’s annexation of Crimea. Trump’s request for the investigat­ions — which he called a “favor” — came during a July 25 phone call between the leaders, which prompted a whistleblo­wer’s complaint and launched the impeachmen­t inquiry.

Though many of the basics of the investigat­ion were known before public hearings started Nov. 13, several new things came to light. Here are six of the most important things we learned.

The July 26 call: Much has been made of the July 25 call between Trump and Zelenskiy. But the public hearings revealed for the first time that there was also a significan­t call the day after.

Senior U.S. diplomat in Ukraine Bill Taylor supplied the first bombshell of the hearings. He testified that after his deposition a staff member informed him about a July 26 cellphone call that the staffer overheard between EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland, who was eating with the staffer at an outdoor restaurant in Kyiv, and Trump.

The staffer at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, David Holmes, was quickly deposed and called to testify publicly, where he described hearing Trump’s voice booming from the phone loud enough so he could hear both sides of the conversati­on. He said he heard Trump ask Sondland whether Zelenskiy had agreed to do the investigat­ions.

“(Sondland) said, ‘Oh yeah, he’s going to do it. He’ll do anything you ask,’ ” Holmes said, adding that Sondland then added that Zelensky “loves your ass.”

Trump has said he doesn’t remember the call with Sondland. The call not only drew attention because of the content, but because an ambassador spoke with the president via an unsecured line in a public space in a country at war with an adversary.

Sondland testified that the White House confirmed to him that the call took place and the call didn’t stand out to him personally, but he doesn’t dispute Holmes’ descriptio­n of the call.

But he and Holmes disagree on what occurred after the call. Holmes said that after the call was over, he asked Sondland what Trump thought about Ukraine. He said Sondland replied that Trump only cared about the “big stuff.”

Asked what that was, Sondland said Trump cared more about the investigat­ions into the Bidens than about U.S. policy toward Ukraine, according to Holmes. Sondland said he doesn’t remember talking with Holmes about the Bidens or Burisma, the energy company that employed Hunter Biden.

The July 25 emails: We knew about the July 25 call. But not about the July 25 emails.

Ukraine may have known that the Trump administra­tion was withholdin­g aid the same day of the July 25 phone call between the world leaders, Laura Cooper, a Pentagon official specializi­ng in Ukraine, told lawmakers. She disclosed for the first time the existence of two emails received by her staff, and a call they received from the Ukrainian Embassy. Each described Ukrainian officials inquiring about the U.S. aid.

When Ukrainians learned about the delay is crucial because Republican­s argue that there could be no quid pro quo if Ukrainians were not aware that the aid was being withheld. They say Zelenskiy did not know the aid was delayed during the July 25 call. And the topic did not come up during the call, according to a White House account and witness testimony.

Some witnesses had testified that the Ukrainian government learned the aid was being withheld in August. But Cooper was the first witness to present evidence they may have known during the call, or hours later, when the emails were sent.

The emails and phone call don’t definitive­ly show what Ukraine was aware of a delay. But Cooper said it would have been unusual for the embassy to suddenly start asking about the status of the aid unless they had a specific concern.

The aid was released Sept. 11, after Congress began looking into the situation and the whistleblo­wer filed a complaint about it.

Sondland’s surprise reversal: Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland was a witness specifical­ly requested by Republican­s, but he didn’t help their case much.

Sondland, who donated $1 million to Trump’s inaugurati­on, had come across in his deposition as defending the president and disputing the idea that there was an improper quid pro quo.

But with multiple other witnesses contradict­ing his testimony, Sondland — who had already been forced once to revise his deposition amid discrepanc­ies with others — changed his tune even more during his public appearance.

“Was there a quid pro quo?” he asked. “The answer is yes.” He confirmed that a White House meeting with Trump was contingent upon Ukraine announcing the investigat­ions he wanted.

Sondland went on to agree with Democrats that it was wrong for the president to ask a foreign government to investigat­e a political rival. Then he implicated a list of other senior administra­tion officials who he says were aware of the campaign, including Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of Energy Rick Perry, Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and others.

“Everyone was in the loop,” he said. “It was no secret.” He said Trump directed him and others to work with his personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who led the effort to push Ukraine to investigat­e Trump’s political foes. “We followed the president’s orders.”

Sondland also blew a big hole in one of the key GOP defenses of Trump: That he withheld the aid because he was concerned about Ukraine taking steps to root out its corruption.

Sondland said Zelenskiy “had to announce the investigat­ions. He didn’t actually have to do them, as I understood it.” That left the impression, from the witness closest to Trump, that the president really only cared about the PR value of the investigat­ions into his rivals, not whether they were actually carried out. Tweets against the fired ambassador: Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitc­h gave Democrats the sympatheti­c face they needed as she described her confusion and despair at being recalled in May amid a flurry of unfounded rumors that she was anti-Trump and corrupt. The allegation­s, which originated with a former Ukrainian official who has since renounced them, were amplified by Giuliani, the president’s family and conservati­ve pundits.

She said she understood the president’s right to replace an ambassador at any time, but in one of the hearings’ most emotional moments, she added: “I do wonder why it’s necessary to smear my reputation falsely.”

Then, as Yovanovitc­h testified about being smeared, Trump took to Twitter to criticize her, claiming without evidence “that everywhere Marie Yovanovitc­h went turned bad,” disparagin­g her previous service in Somalia as well as her work in Ukraine.

The tweet drew a rebuke from Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who read it aloud and said, “We saw today witness intimidati­on in real time.” He warned that intimidati­on could be its own article of impeachmen­t. Even many Republican­s distanced themselves from the tweet.

OTHER HIGHLIGHTS

No answers about why the aid was withheld: The hold on nearly $400 million in Ukraine aid was announced by an Office of Management and Budget staff member who said it was being done at the direction of the president.

But nearly every witness testified that — despite persistent efforts — they never got a full explanatio­n of why the aid to Ukraine was withheld or for that matter, why it was eventually restored.

Dual diplomacy channels: The fact that Ukraine policy had been hijacked by Trump loyalists was known previously, but the public hearings brought that into stark relief. Witnesses provided plenty of evidence that Giuliani was directing the so-called three amigos — Sondland, Energy Secretary Rick Perry and former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker — to push Ukraine to commit to the investigat­ions.

 ?? KIRK MCKOY TNS ?? The first big surprise was a July 26 phone call involving Trump overheard by David Holmes, of the U.S. embassy in Ukraine.
KIRK MCKOY TNS The first big surprise was a July 26 phone call involving Trump overheard by David Holmes, of the U.S. embassy in Ukraine.

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