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Trump’s Ukraine call was ‘crazy’ and ‘frightenin­g,’ official told whistleblo­wer

- BY NICHOLAS FANDOS The New York Times

A White House official who listened to President Donald Trump’s July phone call with Ukraine’s leader described it as “crazy,” “frightenin­g,” and “completely lacking in substance related to national security,” according to a memo written by the whistleblo­wer who is a CIA officer at the center of the Ukraine scandal and spoke to the White House official.

The official was “visibly shaken by what had transpired,” the CIA officer wrote in his memo, one day after Trump pressured President Volodymyr Zelenskiy of Ukraine in a July 25 phone call to open investigat­ions that would benefit Trump politicall­y.

A palpable sense of concern had already taken hold among at least some in the White House that the call had veered well outside the bounds of traditiona­l diplomacy, the officer wrote.

“The official stated that there was already a conversati­on underway with White House lawyers about how to handle the discussion because, in the official’s view, the president had clearly committed a criminal act by urging a foreign power to investigat­e a U.S. person for the purposes of advancing his own reelection bid in 2020,” the CIA officer wrote.

The document provides a rare glimpse into at least one of the communicat­ions that were with a White House official and helped prompt the whistleblo­wer’s formal complaint to the intelligen­ce community inspector general detailing a broad pressure campaign on Ukraine by Trump, administra­tion officials, and his personal lawyer.

The complaint and a reconstruc­ted transcript released by the White House formed the basis of the House impeachmen­t inquiry into Trump.

The inspector general, Michael Atkinson, handed the two-page memo over to Congress last week with other documents that shed light on the whistleblo­wer and his actions. A person familiar with their contents, which Fox News first reported, described them to The New York Times. A lawyer for the whistleblo­wer did not comment.

The whistleblo­wer, who relied on “multiple U.S. government officials” for his complaint, said Trump was “using the power of his office to solicit interferen­ce from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.”

It was not clear whether the White House official he spoke to on July 26 was the second whistleblo­wer, who has also provided informatio­n to Atkinson, or a different person. Neither whistleblo­wer’s name has been made public.

Little, if any, of the whistleblo­wer’s complaint has been disproved, though Trump has sought to discredit him because his account was secondhand. The White House transcript largely affirmed his account of the call, and Atkinson deemed his complaint credible, saying he interviewe­d others who corroborat­ed it.

The White House official “seemed keen to inform a trusted colleague within the national security apparatus about the call,” the CIA officer wrote in his July 26 memo.

Much of the whistleblo­wer’s memo also comports with the existing public record of the call between Trump and Zelenskiy.

The memo detailed key aspects of the conversati­on, including Trump’s request for investigat­ions into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and a conspiracy theory about Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election.

Atkinson shared the memo and the other documents with the House Intelligen­ce Committee last week before a session in which he privately described the steps he took to assess the credibilit­y of the complaint.

In submitting his complaint, the whistleblo­wer identified three facts that could be used to accuse him of potential bias against Trump, the documents showed. Two were redacted. The third indicated that the whistleblo­wer is a registered Democrat.

Responding to that reporting on Twitter, Mark S. Zaid, a lawyer for the whistleblo­wer, brushed off the idea that party registrati­on proved anything about his client’s credibilit­y.

“We won’t comment on identifyin­g info but if true, give me a break! Bias? Seriously?” he wrote.

Still, the whistleblo­wer’s political affiliatio­n and the other facts, should they become public, could fuel arguments from Trump and his Republican allies that the whistleblo­wer’s actions were politicall­y motivated or that his political views colored how he assessed a string of actions that he heard about from other government officials and then summarized in his complaint.

 ?? ANNA MONEYMAKER The New York Times, file 2019 ?? A White House official who listened to the July phone call between President Donald Trump, above, and Ukraine’s leader described it as ‘completely lacking in substance related to national security,’ according to a memo by a whistleblo­wer.
ANNA MONEYMAKER The New York Times, file 2019 A White House official who listened to the July phone call between President Donald Trump, above, and Ukraine’s leader described it as ‘completely lacking in substance related to national security,’ according to a memo by a whistleblo­wer.

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