Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Walker against Patriot Act changes

Sensenbren­ner surprised by governor’s position

- By CRAIG GILBERT cgilbert@journalsen­tinel.com

Concord, N.H. — As the issue comes to a head in Congress, the disagreeme­nts within the Republican Party over the Patriot Act are playing out in surprising ways.

Consider the GOP leadership from just one state, Wisconsin.

Governor and likely presidenti­al candidate Scott Walker made clear on a political swing to New Hampshire that he does not support a House bill that bans the National Security Agency’s mass surveillan­ce program, suggesting the measure goes too far in limiting the government’s ability to monitor phone records.

But that position puts him at odds with his state’s senior GOP member of Congress, Jim Sensenbren­ner, who wrote the bill, known as the USA Freedom Act.

“I was absolutely surprised” to hear of the governor’s position, Sensenbren­ner said in an interview Saturday, “because all of the Wisconsin Republican­s in Congress have voted for it and publicly expressed support for it.”

Wisconsin’s five GOP House members and its one GOP senator, Ron Johnson, have all voted for the Sensenbren­ner bill.

Touted by its supporters as a compromise between competing security and privacy concerns, it ends the bulk collection of Americans’ call records but renews provi-

“I was absolutely surprised, because all of the Wisconsin Republican­s in Congress have voted for it and publicly expressed support for it.”

Rep. Jim Sensenbren­ner

(R-Wis.)

sions of the Patriot Act that are otherwise scheduled to lapse.

The measure passed the House on May 13 on a lopsided bipartisan vote. It is backed by the Obama administra­tion and got 57 votes in the Senate, three short of the number needed to overcome a filibuster.

The Senate is now scrambling to resolve an impasse over the issue, because three provisions of the Patriot Act expire Monday, including the one used to authorize the NSA surveillan­ce program. There is not majority support in Congress for renewing the Patriot Act without revision.

Walker had not spelled out his position on the Sensenbren­ner bill before Friday. But on a Republican sunset cruise on a New Hampshire lake, the governor was asked about the legislatio­n by a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter. He indicated he didn’t support the bill. Walker said he favored striking a balance between privacy and security, but suggested the bill went too far in limiting the government’s surveillan­ce powers.

“I think there needs to be the capacity, if we have in America enemy combatants, or people in line with enemy combatants, we need to be able to gain access to informatio­n that would help assist us,” said Walker.

Talking to reporters again here Saturday, Walker downplayed his difference­s with Sensenbren­ner.

“I would prefer to have something closer to the Patriot Act intact,” said Walker, but said, “I certainly respect my own congressma­n. Congressma­n Sensenbren­ner, I think, is trying to create some sort of balance to make sure the Patriot Act doesn’t run out.”

Sensenbren­ner said that, “where I think the governor was misinforme­d on the USA Freedom Act, is that it does give the NSA access to the materials they need, but the privacy of Americans is protected because the government is not storing the data.”

Under Sensenbren­ner’s bill, the government would not collect the data in bulk but could access data from the phone companies with a court order.

“Continuing the present program is not the proper balance between privacy and national security,” said Sensenbren­ner, who was a chief author of the original Patriot Act in 2001. “There is no privacy if the government ends up collecting trillions of phone records made by Americans and storing it for five years.”

The NSA has been using a provision of the Patriot Act to collect call data en masse — not the content of Americans’ phone calls but a record of when calls are made and by whom. Critics, including Sensenbren­ner, say that oversteppe­d the language of the Patriot Act, and a federal appeals court recently agreed.

The impasse in Congress has been heavily driven by disagreeme­nts among Republican­s. Most House Republican­s back the Sensenbren­ner bill, but most Senate Republican­s have withheld their support.

The same debate is playing out in the GOP presidenti­al field. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, for example, wants the Patriot Act provisions renewed without new restrictio­ns. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul wants the provisions to lapse entirely and has threatened to use every procedural maneuver available to prevent a renewal. And Texas Sen. Ted Cruz backs the Sensenbren­ner approach, which is renewal with limitation­s.

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