Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Gwen Moore says perhaps Ron Johnson should testify in inquiry.

Dem advocates for fast impeachmen­t, or invoking 25th Amendment

- Patrick Marley and Bill Glauber

U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore contends her colleagues should consider bringing U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson before the House Intelligen­ce Committee as part of its impeachmen­t inquiry because he asked President Donald Trump in August about withholdin­g aid to Ukraine.

And the Milwaukee Democrat is also making the case for getting rid of Trump by having his own cabinet invoke the U.S. Constituti­on’s 25th Amendment. The amendment allows the vice president to take over if a majority of the cabinet deems the president incapacita­ted.

“This man is an authoritar­ian. He’s a totalitari­an,” Moore told reporters Wednesday in Milwaukee. “Impeachmen­t can’t come quickly enough and I would love to see the 25th Amendment invoked right now.”

In an interview, Moore said Johnson may need to be interviewe­d as part of the House’s impeachmen­t inquiry because he was alerted in August by an ambassador that nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine was being withheld because Trump wanted the country to launch an investigat­ion that would help him politicall­y.

The GOP senator from Wisconsin has said the president denied the aid and investigat­ion were linked. Johnson has defended the president for having an interest in investigat­ing a theory among some conservati­ves that Ukraine played a role in the 2016 U.S. election.

“He believed the president, even though he had heard from a source that’s reliable to him, (U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon) Sondland, that there was, in fact, a quid pro quo,” Moore said.

“It means that Ron Johnson is complicit. It means that his butt perhaps needs to appear before the Intelligen­ce Committee to offer some testimony too.”

The impeachmen­t inquiry centers on whether Trump kept back the aid to pressure Ukraine to investigat­e the 2016 election and former Vice President Joe Biden, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for president.

Johnson acknowledg­ed last week that Sondland told him in August that the aid and investigat­ions were linked. He told the Wall Street Journal he “winced” when he heard that and confronted Trump about it the next day. Johnson said Trump denied it and Johnson believed his denial.

Johnson defended Trump in a contentiou­s appearance Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where Johnson stressed the need to investigat­e a conspiracy theory that Democrats worked with Ukraine to plant a claim that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russians in the 2016 election.

“Either he’s bought into these conspiracy theories or he’s promoting them to confuse people, to deliberate­ly confuse people, to maintain support for the president,” Moore said. “Either way, it is unbecoming of a United States senator who is chairman of the Homeland Security Committee and on the Foreign Relations Committee.”

She contended Johnson would hurt his political legacy by backing Trump so vehemently.

“When I think back on the McCarthy days and think about things that I’m ashamed of in this state, I have to add Ron Johnson to that list,” she said, referring to Joe McCarthy, the red-baiting senator from Wisconsin whose career ended in infamy. She added: “I’m not saying that he’s a Joe McCarthy, but he’s pushing conspiracy theories.”

An aide to Rep. Adam Schiff, the California Democrat who leads the Intelligen­ce Committee, did not respond to a question about whether Schiff would seek testimony from Johnson.

Johnson indicated Sunday on WISNTV’s “UpFront” that he would cooperate if investigat­ors asked for his assistance.

At her Milwaukee stop Wednesday, Moore advocated for a fast impeachmen­t, as well as having the 25th Amendment invoked.

“I want to see it invoked because I think he’s dangerous,” she told reporters. “I think he’s maladjuste­d. I think he is mercurial. I think that he is not listening to anyone and I am concerned about our national security.”

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