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Connecting Stories and Sounds

The Mandaloria­n Composer Ludwig Göransson

- BY JON JACKSON

For someone who’s made some of the hardest-hitting music of recent years, Ludwig Göransson exhibits a decidedly laid-back demeanor. From the light beard, easy smile and frequently sandaled feet to his soft-spoken yet friendly style of conversati­on, the 36-year-old can easily cause one to forget he’s already won Grammys, an Oscar, and an Emmy in his relatively short career.

Chalk that up to the comfortabl­e confidence that comes from the seeming ease with which he’s composed complex scores for huge Hollywood projects, most recently for Christophe­r Nolan’s

Tenet and the Star Wars spin-off The Mandaloria­n, or attribute it to a creative, European upbringing by a florist mother and a guitar-teacher father in Linköping, Sweden. Speaking to Newsweek recently by phone, Göransson said it was a house filled with an eclectic mix of music that helped shape him as an artist.

“My sister was playing violin in the orchestra,” he said. At first he was bored at the frequent performanc­es the family attended, until, “My dad was whispering stories in my ear, about what was going on—like stories—and I remember that made the whole thing a lot more fun.”

Now Göransson is the one setting music to stories, be it with director Ryan Coogler for Fruitvale Station, Black Panther, Creed and Creed II, or his production work for Childish Gambino, the hip-hop persona of actor Donald Glover. His work with the latter led him to winning Grammys for Record of the Year and Song of the Year for 2018’s “This Is America.” The profession­al accolades kept coming with another Grammy, an Oscar and a Golden Globe for Black Panther, and then just this September, he won an Emmy for scoring Disney+’s The Mandaloria­n. Tenet’s score, which shifts effortless­ly between antsy, industrial keyboard to surreally calming melodies, could be yet another awards contender for Göransson.

Around the same time his father helped make the connection between stories and sound, young Göransson began picking up on musical scores. He said The X-files was likely the first TV show where he noticed the effect the music had on him. He said, “I was so, so scared by that show—just hearing that whistle [in the theme] gave me the creeps, and I made the associatio­n about what was giving me the shivers. I had a similar moment, but in a different emotional way, with Edward Scissorhan­ds [music by Danny Elfman], where I was crying. I realized that it was because of the score.”

This set him on his path to scoring films and television. He first went to the Stockholm Royal College of Music before going to the University of Southern California for its Scoring for Motion Picture and Television program. It was at a party while at USC where he met his first friend in America, Ryan Coogler. While playing pool, they bonded over music, when a surprised Göransson learned the young director was a fan of Swedish

artists Lykke Li and Little Dragon.

That chance encounter proved to be life-changing, as did another meeting not long afterward. Fresh out of school, Göransson’s first job was music for the cult classic TV comedy Community. The show fulfilled his desire to work in a wide variety of styles (sometimes with a full orchestra), but it was his friendship with cast member Donald Glover that exposed Göransson to a whole new audience. His production work with Glover (as Childish Gambino) introduced him to mainstream radio listeners and made another childhood dream come true when he was able to put a band together and perform at music festivals.

After checking “gigging live musician” off his list of accomplish­ments, Göransson went back to producing, working with music stars Haim, Chance the Rapper and even (just this year) Lykke Li. Still, for many, he’s bestknown for his composing work and the innovative ways in which he uses sound for scores. He makes ample use of atmosphere as an essential element to his soundtrack­s, almost like a featured instrument. For Coogler’s 2013 debut feature Fruitvale Station, Göransson recorded the noise inside an actual transit station, and he captured the sounds inside a boxing gym for Creed. The young Swede couldn’t magically transport himself to sample the natural environmen­t of mythical Wakanda for Black Panther’s score, but he did travel to West Africa, where he collaborat­ed with well-known Senegalese musicians.

“My approach is to build sounds from the ground up—nothing that has specific associatio­ns. Everything is fresh, and I want to custom create a new sound and a new palette for every project that I make so you can’t relate it to anything else,” he said. The directors he’s worked with have also been keen collaborat­ors who enabled his approach to creating his soundscape­s. He noted, “I’ve been lucky to be able to work with directors for whom music has been extremely important even before they start shooting...i love to see the script first and start writing ideas based on the script and conversati­ons we’ve had. It’s always easier to talk to a director

“I remember that feeling of being a 10-yearold kid, hearing that music for the first time, and how the music transition­ed me to a different planet—it felt like it took me to a different universe.”

when you can play music for them rather than just talk about it.”

That process is how he wrote music for The Mandaloria­n, which features an evocative opening credits song best described as a mix between an old samurai movie theme and an Ennio Morricone spaghetti western score. He said that before he began writing for the show, he met with its creator, Jon Favreau, a few months before shooting began. While they both agreed the music must capture the soul of Star Wars, Göransson admitted that following in Star Wars’ original composer John Williams’ footsteps was intimidati­ng. In fact, it was first hearing Williams’ “The Imperial March” from the original trilogy that led him to then see the actual movies.

“I remember that feeling of being a 10-year-old kid, hearing that music for the first time, and how the music transition­ed me to a different planet—it felt like it took me to a different universe,” he said. “That was the feeling that I would try to go back to when I started writing. I was like, ‘Okay, how can I go back to that feeling.’ One thing that I wanted to do for a while was to take myself away from the computer screen—normally, I write most of the music on a computer.”

Reaching back to recapture that moment from his youth also helped relieve the pressure of living up to Williams’ legendary work. He thus created the music using a different approach—one that went all the way back to the beginning for him.

“I bought this set of recorders, the little instrument that I used to play when I was around 8-yearsold. Because I wanted to be able to play all the instrument­s myself, I surrounded myself with just piano, guitars, drums, bass, these recorders, and I locked myself into a studio and started recording music. Playing these instrument­s resonated with me. When working with a computer, you put so much time and effort into it, and you’re not getting anything back. But when I was playing these instrument­s, they were talking to me. One instrument told me to go to another instrument, and that was kind of the puzzle process.”

He began working on the score for the second season of The Mandaloria­n just as COVID-19 struck. Fortunatel­y though, a momentary lull in the pandemic during the summer allowed him to gather musicians together live, although the brass and woodwinds couldn’t be in the same room with the string players, who stood socially distanced from one another and played wearing masks. As unusual as that sounds, he said, “one of the highlights of every week was to go in and record with musicians and get a sense of normal life again...that was such a joy.”

Creating the score for Tenet was much different. The musicians recorded their parts separately in their homes, and Göransson had a much shorter deadline to wrap up the music for Nolan, whose usual composer, Hans Zimmer, was committed to Dune. However, this method proved to complement the sci-fi thriller’s theme of time manipulati­on. Nolan also surprised the young composer with his enthusiasm and deep knowledge of music, and their conversati­ons fostered what Göransson described as an easy collaborat­ion.

Next, Göransson may find some time alone in the spotlight without any collaborat­ors. After releasing an EP of experiment­al music in 2013 that in Göransson fashion spanned genres from folk to ethereal dance pop, he’s looking to finish a full album. He began it a couple of years ago, but then all those pesky award-winning projects kept turning up. He estimated he’s currently about 70 percent finished with it and says the album—along with spending time with his wife and young son—will be his focus for now. Since he’s often working with other people, he said that for the album, he has “all these ideas that need to come out, so it’s kind of like therapy.”

And what about completing the EGOT? He has an Emmy, a few Grammys and an Oscar. Will he be going to Broadway once it reopens to try his hand at taking home a Tony?

“No, no plans so far,” he said, laughing. “But I love all kinds of different mediums of music. Maybe when the time is right.”

“I want to custom create a new sound and a new palette for every project that I make so you can’t relate it to anything else.”

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NO SCREEN For the music to The Mandaloria­n, the composer wanted to get away for a while from writing on a computer.
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A LOT OF HARDWARE Although Göransson is not yet 40, his music has already won Grammys, an Oscar and an Emmy.

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