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Can you build a PS5 or Xbox Series X PC for $800?

You can’t match a PS5 or Xbox Series X on price—not if you want similar performanc­e. So how much more does it cost to build a comparable PC?

- BY ALAINA YEE

Ray tracing. Zen 2. Variable refresh rate. 4K/60fps gaming. RDNA 2. 120Hz refresh rate. The tech specs for the Microsoft Xbox Series X and Sony Playstatio­n 5, which hit shelves in November, contain a familiar list of elements for PC gamers. In fact, outside of RDNA 2, they’re all old news at this point. Looking at the next-generation consoles, you could easily think, “Why not just build a PC? It’ll only be a little more expensive.”

Everyone’s favorite Greek chorus (aka the internet) would agree. Vocal commentors like to claim that a PC equivalent to a PS5 or Xbox Series X costs as little as $800—or the “true” price of those consoles after factoring in the mandatory subscripti­ons for online play.

But we here at Pcworld follow both hardware launches and, more importantl­y, pricing over time. And I can tell you that while the console specs may be convention­al, they don’t come cheap.

So how much do you have to shell out? That’s what this build project aims to answer.

PS5 + XBOX SERIES X = ?

Actually, this project aims to answer a second question as well: What exactly goes into a PC build designed to mimic the next-gen consoles? After all, we as PC gamers, at the time of this writing, can’t even buy an RDNA 2 GPU yet. (The Radeon RX 6800 and 6800XT become available on

November 18 [ go.pcworld. com/18nv], with the 6900XT following on December 8.)

Console gamers get to play on one first.

So before we dive into the

PC build lists, let’s recap the

PS5 and Xbox Series X specs we’re working off of:

Most of the hardware and features are easy enough to imitate. We are on PC, which necessitat­es some adjustment­s—for example, the GDDR6 memory in the

PS5 and Xbox Series X gets used for both gaming and system tasks. On PC, we’ll throw in 16GB of system memory to match that number, but we won’t overthink the spec otherwise.

The amount of VRAM we end up with will depend on which graphics card has the closest performanc­e.

Which brings us to the stickiest part of these builds: Which GPUS to use. The specific performanc­e we’re targeting is unclear right now. Marketing teams for the PS5 and Series X have thrown around terms like 4K/60, 4K/120(!), ray tracing, and 8K resolution…but neither company has outlined how often we

should expect games to showcase those features, much less to what degree (e.g., graphical settings, type of ray-tracing implementa­tion, type of 8K content).

To be fair, some of these features serve as future-proofing for these consoles’ inevitably long lives. The PS4 and Xbox One lasted seven years, while the generation before ran for eight.

This fogginess around performanc­e isn’t helped by the fact that Nvidia just released its first set of cards using new architectu­re, and AMD’S new GPU, at the time of this writing, won’t be available for another week, as mentioned above. So not only is it imprudent to buy an older video card, we can’t lock in the appropriat­e RDNA 2 GPU (or Ampere rival, if you don’t care about exactly matching the consoles). We don’t know yet what to expect from the Radeon RX 6800 and 6800Xt—it might turn out neither one is the right graphics card for these PS5 and XBSX PC builds.

Still, we can start ballparkin­g most of what will go into the machine, and estimate what costs to expect. So let’s get to it.

Why now? All this uncertaint­y around the consoles’ performanc­e may cause some folks to question why we’re trying to answer this question now. Think of it as a snapshot to compare against later; we’re calling this a project because we’ll revisit it on a rolling basis. The PC landscape will shift and improve, and you get to come along on the journey.

Also, those internet commentors are saying you can build a PC right now for $800, not in the distant future. Naturally, I saw that as a challenge.

PS5 BUILD (ROUND 1)

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X ( go.pcworld. com/r737), $305

Motherboar­d: Asus TUF Gaming X570-plus (Wi-fi) ATX ( go.pcworld. com/570p), $180

RAM: G.skill Ripjaws V 16GB DDR4/3600 (2X8GB) ( go.pcworld.com/ rpjw), $64

Graphics card: Nvidia RTX 3070 ( go. pcworld.com/nv37), $500

Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVME Gen 4 SSD ( go.pcworld.com/sbrk), $200

PSU: Cooler Master Masterwatt 750W 80+ Bronze ( go.pcworld.com/mswt), $95

Case: Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX MidTower (White) ( go.pcworld.com/mtne), $60

OS: Windows 10 Pro license, $40

Controller: Sony Playstatio­n Dualsense Controller ( go.pcworld.com/dlsn), $70

Total: $1,514

Build notes

Hardware prices current as of November 8, 2020. OS license was purchased from shop. pcworld.com ( go.pcworld.com/shpc) during a sale in October 2020.

Build breakdown

On the whole, this PC sticks to the basics. The matching focuses on specs, upgradabil­ity, and performanc­e output. It does not try to adopt the Playstatio­n 5’s smaller footprint, nor does it attempt to be as quiet or cool. (You can of course tackle those aspects if you choose, but since most PC builders won’t focus on those things, we’re skipping them. Check out our Youtube version of this PS5 PC [ go. pcworld.com/pspc] for a fancier, more ambitious build.)

Most parts on this list are fairly selfexplan­atory. The PS5’S custom AMD APU sports eight Zen 2 cores clocked at 3.5GHZ, so its counterpar­t in this PC is an eight-core Zen 2 Ryzen 7 3700X, which has a base clock of 3.6GHZ. We’ll use the included Wraith Prism cooler, which performs well for a stock cooler and even comes with a touch of RGB. (Though for this PC, we only need the blue.)

To replicate the Playstatio­n 5’s PCIE 4.0 SSD support, we had to opt for an X570 motherboar­d. B550 mobos only support a single Gen 4 SSD, and we require two M.2 slots capable of such speeds. Plus, we need Wi-fi 6 support—and so this $180 Asus model fits the bill as the cheapest option. (Pairing a non-wi-fi motherboar­d with an add-in card ended up costing more.) As for the storage drive, we picked the most affordable 1TB Gen

4 option, which is the Sabrent Rocket model.

The GPU is the only question mark, as covered above, and so the RTX 3070 stands in as our placeholde­r. It may turn out to be overkill, but we don’t want to use an older-generation card. You’ll pay more for less performanc­e, and that doesn’t seem fair to Pc-building for this project. A 3070 isn’t a huge stretch, anyway—it’s a 4K/60 card, and until we know how frequently to expect (or not expect) 4K/60 from the consoles, it’s a reasonable place to start. Down the road, a Radeon RX 6800 could take its place, or perhaps even an as-yet-unannounce­d lower-tier card. We have to wait and see.

For the power supply and case, we went with a 750W PSU, which provides more wattage than we need but can accommodat­e an RTX 3080 if one is required. We then chose the most attractive of the affordable white ATX mid-tower cases available. The case doesn’t accommodat­e optical drives, but that’s all right. You won’t find a 4K Blu-ray drive in this build—we’re matching the digital edition of the PS5. PC gamers should find this a natural fit, since game distributi­on on PC went digital long ago.

As for the operating system, we managed to get a Windows 10 Pro license at a heavy discount. The Pcworld online shop ( go. pcworld.com/shpc) periodical­ly offers sales on licenses, and in anticipati­on of this build, I snagged a key. Keep an eye out for this discount to reappear to avoid dropping a full $120 on a Windows 10 Home license.

Finally, I accounted this time for the cost of a controller. Usually we don’t include peripheral­s like a keyboard and mouse in a build—and frankly, since we’re not trying to match the PS5 or Xbox Series X on price, it doesn’t matter for this project. But I’ve included a Dualsense controller anyway to allow everyone to rest peacefully at night. Whether or not games will provide support for the controller’s adaptive triggers on PC remains to be seen though, so you can save some cash by choosing a Dualshock 4 controller. (Not only is its MSRP $10 cheaper,

but the DS4 goes on sale regularly.)

Overall, we’ve laid a solid foundation for our PS5 build, with some room to do more Pc-like upgrades in the future. (We’re already itching to do a RAM upgrade given our browser tab habits, truth be told.) Again, the only component not yet locked down is the graphics card.

Cost comparison

So how did we do on price? Contrary to the internet’s prediction­s, you’ll pay quite a bit more than $800 for a Ps5-like PC build. As mocked up with an Nvidia RTX 3070, our parts list exceeds that estimate by $700. Even when comparing against the $500 disc-version of the console plus a $480 eight-year subscripti­on for online play (assuming this generation lasts that long), the gap still stands at $500.

XBOX SERIES X BUILD (ROUND 1)

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X ( go.pcworld. com/r737), $305

Motherboar­d: Asus TUF Gaming X570-plus (Wi-fi) ATX ( go.pcworld. com/570p), $180

RAM: G.skill Ripjaws V 16GB DDR4/ 3600 (2X8GB) ( go.pcworld.com/rpjw), $64

Graphics card: Nvidia RTX 3070 ( go. pcworld.com/nv37), $500

Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVME Gen 4 SSD ( go.pcworld.com/sbrk), $200

PSU: Cooler Master Masterwatt 750W 80+ Bronze ( go.pcworld.com/mswt), $95

Case: Cooler Master N400 ODD ATX Mid-tower (Black) ( go.pcworld.com/n400), $60

Optical drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-ray/ DVD/CD Writer ( go.pcworld.com/wh14), 55

OS: Windows 10 Pro license, $40

Controller: Xbox Series X controller ( go. pcworld.com/xcon), $60

Total: $1,559 Build notes

Hardware prices current as of November 8, 2020. OS license was purchased from shop. pcworld.com ( go.pcworld.com/shpc) during a sale in October 2020.

Build breakdown

Our preliminar­y take on an Xbox Series X PC largely follows the PS5 build’s lead, but with a couple of minor tweaks to accommodat­e physical media. Because the Series X doesn’t have an all-digital variant, we can’t entirely skip a Blu-ray drive. We will fudge it, though.

Now, a proper 4K Blu-ray drive would actually duplicate the Series X’s capabiliti­es, but little has changed since we last attempted to put one in a PC three years ago ( go.pcworld.com/3ago). You still need an Intel motherboar­d that supports Intel Software Guard Extensions (Intel SGX) for it to work properly, and dealing with SGX is still kind of a headache. While processor and motherboar­d support has improved,

SGX was discovered to have security flaws ( go.pcworld.com/scfl) earlier this year. Intel has been addressing them with patches, but sticking with AMD bypasses all that risk—after all, you will be using this computer for more than just gaming. (Plus, staying with Team Red preserves PCIE 4.0 SSD support.) Using a 4K Blu-ray drive without SGX hardware isn’t an option, either. We prefer suggesting build lists that stay on the up-and-up, and for that scenario to work, you have to circumvent DRM.

So we’re compromisi­ng and downgradin­g to standard Blu-ray, thus making nobody happy…but we’ll have a dang drive at least. I know, console fans: This move proves that the Xbox Series X is superior. And yes, PC builders, we could just skip an optical drive all together because “no one” uses them (outside of people on Pcworld’s The Full Nerd Discord server [ go.pcworld.com/ndds]).

The short of it is, add another $195 to swap in a 4K Blu-ray drive (LG WH16NS60 [ go.pcworld.com/wh16]) plus compatible CPU (Core i7-10700k [ go.pcworld. com/107k]), motherboar­d (Asrock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4SR [ go.pcworld.com/ z490]), and Wi-fi card (Tp-link Archer TX3000E [ go.pcworld.com/tx30]) for optical drive parity with the Xbox Series X. Subtract $55 if you prefer to align with modern PC building trends. We’ll revisit this question later, after Intel’s 11th-generation Rocket Lake desktop CPUS launch.

We’ll also revisit the use of an RTX 3070. For the time being, our two next-gen console builds share the same GPU, which shouldn’t matter since it’s a placeholde­r to meet our baseline of 4K/60. Again, we don’t know what exactly to expect from Radeon RX 6000 graphics cards; we don’t know what lowertier cards are coming; and most importantl­y, we don’t actually know yet the concrete performanc­e difference­s that exist between the PS5 and Xbox Series X. Eurogamer, which does superb comparison­s of that very nature, points out in its review ( go.pcworld.com/ nogm) that it hasn’t even received a single game than can be played on both systems yet.

So don’t worry console fans, I haven’t forgotten that the PS5 has fewer GPU compute units than the Xbox Series X. We’ll just have to tackle that later.

Cost comparison

Like the PS5 build, you’ll spend more than $1,500 on this Xbox Series X PC, thus killing the internet’s optimistic $800 estimate completely dead. Our current parts list costs almost double that, and even when compared against the Series X plus a $480 eight-year subscripti­on for online play (assuming this generation lasts that long), the difference still exceeds $500.

WILL THE PRICE FOR THESE BUILDS CHANGE?

Inevitably, these initial prices will change. Outside of the inevitable drops that come as hardware ages, the cost of these builds will shift as component swaps are made. So if we end up using a lower-tier GPU, the cost could go down. But likewise, if we switch to Intel (which historical­ly has never budged much on its suggested MSRP for processors), the price could increase.

As noted in the build names, these takes are just the first round of ballparkin­g. We’ll narrow down the field and lock in the final parts in the coming weeks and months. In the meantime, we’ll begin collecting performanc­e data. Speaking of....

WE BUILT A TINY NEXT-GEN CONSOLE PC!

For this article, we’ve focused on the basics of re-creating the PS5 and Xbox Series X in PC form. But I also wanted to see how much more the cost rises when attempting to imitate size. So I built a wee version of our PS5 PC. Kinda.

In one of our November livestream­s, I assembled a mini-itx variant of the PS5 PC in real time on Youtube. It closely resembles the parts list above, but with one notable swap: The use of an RTX 2080 Ti instead of the RTX 3070.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X ( go.pcworld. com/r737)

CPU cooler: Cooler Master Masterliqu­id ML240 Mirror AIO ( go.pcworld.com/ml24)

Motherboar­d: Gigabyte X570 I Aorus Pro Wi-fi ( go.pcworld.com/ax57)

RAM: Skill Ripjaws V 16GB DDR4/3600 (2X8GB) ( go.pcworld.com/rpjw)

Graphics card: Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti FE ( go.pcworld.com/rtxi)

Storage: Corsair Force MP600 TB Gen4 NVME SSD ( go.pcworld.com/crfr)

Power supply: Cooler Master V650 SFX Gold (avail. 11/17) ( go.pcworld.com/v650)

Case: Cooler Master NR200 (White) ( go. pcworld.com/nr20)

Fan: 1x Cooler Master Sickleflow V2 ( go. pcworld.com/sfv2)

Why? Well, two reasons. First, the 2080 Ti and 3070 essentiall­y post the same level ( go. pcworld.com/smlv) of traditiona­l game performanc­e. Second, the 2080 Ti has more memory (11GB vs. 8GB) and thus offers some wiggle room when benchmarki­ng at 4K. I might not need that extra memory, but I’ll take it while figuring out what video card to get.

All together, squeezing into a mini-itx

case adds about $300 to the RTX 3070-based build for a total of about $1,800. (Small ain’t cheap in the world of DIY PC builds.) If you factor in the current street cost of a 2080 Ti, then tack on another $500 to $700 for a total of $2,300 to $2,500. A refurb 2080 Ti sold directly by Newegg will set you back $1,000, while a new one sold through third-party vendors goes for about $1,200.

As for performanc­e, I’ll share one teaser chart for now (see right).

Since our PS5 and Xbox Series X PCS really only differ in color (especially in this mini-itx rendition), I willfully crossed party lines to take a look at Gears 5. This game has been heavily promoted for its Xbox Series X enhancemen­ts—namely, native 4K/60-fps output during the single-player campaign using the PC version’s Ultra textures and 120fps during competitiv­e multiplaye­r. So I spun up its PC benchmark with Ultra textures installed to see what the 2080 Ti would do on the campaign side of things.

Overall, it’s a good showing for the Series X. Next-gen console performanc­e out the gate looks impressive, even knowing that the console version of Gears 5 has fine-tuned adjustment­s that dial back visual fidelity in places. (My former colleague Destin Legarie dives into those details in his coverage on the Series X version of Gears 5 for IGN [ go.pcworld. com/sxg5].) I think that the 2080 Ti has the edge though, as the PC variant of Gears 5 is full fat. If anything, this first quick set of benchmarks illustrate­s the inherent apples-to-oranges nature of comparison­s between console and PC, and how easily one might believe the consoles win against the PC on paper.

That’s it for the moment—as I said, I stlll have a fair amount of benchmarki­ng and comparing ahead. Game delays have spread launches more widely over the holiday season, and so we’re still awaiting big multiplatf­orm titles like Cyberpunk 2077 and Halo Infinite. I’ll be following up in the coming weeks with updates on these first stabs on next-gen console builds as games hit shelves and the GPU landscape settles down.

WHAT ABOUT THE XBOX SERIES S?

Given all the hubbub surroundin­g the PS5 and Xbox Series X, it may seem like we’ve forgotten about the Xbox Series S, which also launches on November 10. We haven’t. We’re interested in also creating a doppelgang­er for that $300, all-digital 1440p console—so it’s part of this project and will get its own separate rundown in an upcoming article on Pcworld.

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In 2017, we had a much easier time trying to reproduce an Xbox One X( go.pcworld.com/3ago) thanks to its modest hardware and the timing of product launch cycles. This time, the process is more chaotic, because components like RDNA 2 graphics cards have yet to launch.
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Our placeholde­r GPU. The cost could drop or even rise, depending on what’ll ultimately best match the PS5 and Xbox Series X’s gaming performanc­e.
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You don’t need a small PC to imitate the consoles in specs and output.
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Due to the lingering headache around DRM protection, we’ve passed on a 4K Blu-ray drive for this build.
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