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GINA MCCARTHY IS BACK IN CHARGE

- BY ANDY KROLL

The former EPA head is now Biden’s domestic climate czar, on a mission to harness the federal government’s might to stop climate change

Gina mccarthy logged on to Zoom one day in early February and saw a crowd of Cabinet secretarie­s and other agency chiefs staring back at her, a Brady Bunch of senior bureaucrat­s. It was the first meeting of the Biden administra­tion’s National Climate Task Force, a team of nearly two dozen top officials from across the government in charge of jump-starting Biden’s “whole-of-government” climate agenda.

To lead it, Biden turned to McCarthy, a 66-year-old New Englander (with the chewy Boston accent to prove it) who knows a thing or two about how to wield executive power in the fight against climate change. As the head of the EPA under President Obama, she led the creation of the Clean Power Plan, the first national emissions limits for power plants, and a slew of other environmen­tal actions.

Now, McCarthy is one of Biden’s two top lieutenant­s, along with former Secretary of State John Kerry, leading what climate experts describe as the most ambitious climate-policy agenda of any president in history.

How is Biden’s “whole-of-government” approach different from Obama’s approach?

President Obama pulled together a plan, but that plan had discrete tasks. It did not bring it all together under one task force with one overwhelmi­ng theme, which is to use every tool at your disposal in every agency and to start thinking about climate change in every decision you make. President Biden is all about using climate change not to address just the planetary problem, but really to use it as a way to rebuild the economy.

The administra­tion’s goal is for 40 percent of the benefits of climate policies to go to disadvanta­ged communitie­s. How will the public be able to know that progress is being made on that?

One of the things that President Biden called for was a White House Environmen­tal Justice Advisory Council. The reason to have that is really twofold. One, this is going to have scorecards. We’re actually going to look at what every single agency is doing or not doing and provide the public with all kinds of informatio­n. And part of this task force is really about early engagement. We’re not here to tell environmen­tal-justice communitie­s what they ought to want. We are here to say, “Forty percent of the investment­s we’re making on clean energy are going to be used to benefit your communitie­s. How can we make sure they’re providing the benefits that you want?”

In regard to Trump’s assault on environmen­tal protection­s, which of his rollbacks are you most concerned about, and how hard are they going to be to undo?

Some of the ones early out of the gate are going to be methane. There was a rule [under Obama] that required methane to be captured from leaks in the oil-and-gas sector. We’re going to revisit that, reestablis­hing that rule.

We’ve already told people that 2035 is the time window for cleaning up the power sector. And so we’re having conversati­ons with the utility sector, and that’s going to involve not just standard-setting but also making sure that we look at transmissi­on bottleneck­s or other opportunit­ies to make that transition to clean energy, which the utilities are not arguing about. They’re just looking for help to see how they can make that [2035] window work.

And the third is we’re looking at the auto sector. We’re going to start talking to car manufactur­ers about how quickly we can get to zero [emissions] in the car fleet.

The president’s executive orders try to meet the needs of coal communitie­s. But of course, there’s skepticism. Why should they think and feel differentl­y about the Biden administra­tion’s pledges to reinvent those communitie­s and get people to work?

The opportunit­y that we have here is to understand that coal is not competitiv­e. It is not winning in the clean-energy future. We know what we have to do to address climate change. So there’s an opportunit­y that the president’s trying to capture, to say, “That doesn’t mean you can’t have a productive and economical­ly viable community.” And so we’ve identified opportunit­ies for that — for the transition of skills that are useful in coal mining and in coal-based utilities, in the oil-and-gas sector — that we hope will be able to get some resources through legislatio­n and other means.

So it’s not about deciding today that their jobs don’t matter. It’s about recognizin­g that that transition is happening; it’s going to continue to happen. If you look at the renewable numbers back in 2020, we had a huge increase in both solar and wind. And most of that increase was in states that have Republican senators. This is about recognizin­g where the future is and how we capture it again. We have to advance manufactur­ing. We have to be the clean-energy country if we want to compete against China and get those jobs here instead of elsewhere. You’re not going to build that on the technologi­es of the past.

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