San Diego Union-Tribune

CIA PICK VOWS ‘UNVARNISHE­D’ INTELLIGEN­CE

Burns warns of ongoing threats from China, Russia

- BY ERIC TUCKER Tucker writes for The Associated Press. The New York Times contribute­d to this report.

President Joe Biden’s nominee to run the CIA told lawmakers Wednesday that he would keep politics out of the job and deliver “unvarnishe­d” intelligen­ce to politician­s and policymake­rs even if they don’t want to hear it.

William Burns told members of the Senate Intelligen­ce Committee at his confirmati­on hearing that “politics must stop where intelligen­ce work begins.”

“That is exactly what President Biden expects of CIA. It was the first thing he told me when he asked me to take on this role,” Burns said. “He said he wants the agency to give it to him straight and I pledged to do just that and to defend those who do the same.”

The comments from Burns appeared aimed at drawing a contrast with the prior administra­tion, when President Donald Trump faced repeated accusation­s of politicizi­ng intelligen­ce while also publicly disputing the assessment­s of his own intelligen­ce agencies, most notably about Russian election interferen­ce.

Burns, a former ambassador to Russia and Jordan who served at the State Department for more than 30 years under both Democratic and Republican presidents, is well-known in diplomatic circles and appears headed for a smooth confirmati­on. Already drawing bipartisan support, a vote by the full

Senate could come next week.

Despite his decades of experience, he acknowledg­ed that the diverse array of internatio­nal threats — including from an “aggressive“Russia, “hostile” Iran and “predatory Chinese leadership” — is different from what he encountere­d when he first entered government service and even from the years that immediatel­y followed the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Burns said the “biggest geopolitic­al test” the country faces comes from China, which in recent years has staged elaborate influence operations inside the U.S. and carried out hacks with the purpose of stealing American intellectu­al property.

“We have to buckle up for the long haul, I think, in competitio­n with China,” he said. “This is not like the competitio­n with the Soviet Union in the Cold War, which was primarily in security and ideologica­l terms. This is an adversary that is extraordin­arily ambitious with technology and capable in economic

terms as well.”

Still, he said, there may be room for cooperatio­n with Beijing in areas such as climate change and nuclear nonprolife­ration.

While Russia is in many ways a declining world power, the country remains a disruptive and potent threat, Burns said.

“As long as Vladimir Putin is the leader of Russia, we’re going to be operating within a pretty narrow band of possibilit­ies from the very sharply competitiv­e to the very nastily adversaria­l,” he said.

A recent hack of corporatio­ns and U.S. government agencies believed to have been the work of Russia laid bare the perils of underestim­ating the Kremlin and served as a “very harsh wakeup” call about the vulnerabil­ities of supply chains and critical infrastruc­ture, Burns said. The Biden administra­tion has said it plans to respond to those intrusions in weeks, rather than months.

“I think it’s essential for the CIA in particular to work even harder to develop our capabiliti­es to help detect these kind of attacks when they come from external players from foreign players,“Burns said.

On Iran, another persistent U.S. adversary, Burns said Tehran can never be trusted with a nuclear weapon.

Under questionin­g from Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, Burns stated that he believed waterboard­ing, a technique that was part of the CIA’s interrogat­ion and detention program for suspected terrorists captured after 9/11 amounted to “torture.”

He said he was determined that the practice would “never again” be used by the CIA but also said he did not believe the agency should take action against employees who used the tactic while operating under Justice Department guidelines and at the direction of the president.

Throughout the hearing, Burns also spoke about the importance of protecting CIA officers and his experience­s working with them over the years.

Burns is the only career diplomat to be tapped to lead the CIA. Former agency officials said that while his experience is as a consumer — not a creator — of intelligen­ce, he knows the agency well.

“Our chiefs thought he was a terrific person to work for; he understood our role,” said George Tenet, a former CIA director who worked with Burns. “He understand­s the business of intelligen­ce and what it can do.”

 ?? TOM WILLIAMS AP ?? William Burns, nominee for Central Intelligen­ce Agency director, testified Wednesday.
TOM WILLIAMS AP William Burns, nominee for Central Intelligen­ce Agency director, testified Wednesday.

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