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NO ACCORD IN ‘PRODUCTIVE’ MEETING

Biden, McCarthy express optimism for debt-ceiling deal

- BY CATIE EDMONDSON & KATIE ROGERS Edmondson and Rogers write for The New York Times.

President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Bakersfiel­d, expressed optimism Monday that they could break the partisan stalemate that has prevented action to avert a default on the nation’s debt, but they remained far apart on a deal to raise the debt limit as Democrats resisted Republican­s’ demands for spending cuts in exchange.

The two met face to face at the White House for the second time in two weeks in a show of goodwill after a weekend of behind-thescenes clashes among negotiator­s, punctuated by a move by Republican­s on Friday to halt the talks and accusation­s by both sides that the other was being unreasonab­le.

With Biden back from a summit meeting in Japan, the tenor appeared to have changed considerab­ly.

“We don’t have an agreement yet,” McCarthy told reporters at the White House after the meeting. “But I did feel like the discussion was productive,” he said, adding later that he believed the tone of the talks was “better than any other time we’ve had discussion­s.”

“I believe we can still get there,” McCarthy said. “I believe we can get it done.”

He said he expected to speak with Biden daily until a deal could be struck.

With a default looming as soon as June 1, Biden and McCarthy began their latest meeting sounding upbeat about finding common ground to avoid economic catastroph­e and left dispatchin­g their top advisers to hammer out an agreement in the coming days.

“We still have some disagreeme­nts, but I think we may be able to get where we have to go,” Biden said as the two sat down in the Oval Office. “We both know we have a significan­t responsibi­lity.”

Biden said in a statement after the meeting that the talks were “productive.”

“We reiterated once again that default is off the table and the only way to move forward is in good faith toward a bipartisan agreement,” he added, saying he and his negotiatin­g team would continue talking with McCarthy and his.

Still, the two sides remained at loggerhead­s. The White House has called Republican­s’ demands for spending cuts extreme, while McCarthy and his aides have accused White House officials of being unreasonab­le.

The number of legislativ­e days for Congress to vote to raise the debt ceiling before the projected deadline is rapidly dwindling. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen on Monday reiterated her warning to Congress that the U.S. could exceed its authority to borrow to pay its bills as soon as June 1.

And Republican­s hinted that no deal was likely to materializ­e until a default was truly imminent. Asked on Monday evening what it would take to break the deadlock, McCarthy replied simply: “June 1.”

Chief among the outstandin­g issues is how much to spend overall next fiscal year on discretion­ary programs and how long any spending caps should be in place. Republican­s want to allow military spending to increase while cutting other programs. But they have shown flexibilit­y around how long they would seek to cap spending overall, coming down from their initial demand of a decade to six years.

That is longer than Biden wants. White House officials have proposed holding both military and other spending — which includes education, scientific research and environmen­tal protection — constant over the next two years.

“These are tough issues,” said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., and a key ally of McCarthy’s who attended the White House meeting. “A directive to cut spending year over year is the toughest thing to do in Washington, D.C. But that is the speaker’s directive to his negotiatin­g team. It is our expectatio­n to be able to get that.”

Hard-right members of McCarthy’s conference have continued to pressure the speaker not to accept anything less than the spending cuts that House Republican­s passed in their debt limit bill last month, which would have amounted to a reduction of an average of 18 percent over a decade.

Once negotiator­s agree to a deal, it will take time to translate it into legislativ­e text. McCarthy has promised that he will give lawmakers 72 hours to review the bill, and said Monday that he believed negotiator­s would need to agree to a compromise this week in order to pass legislatio­n raising the debt ceiling before the projected June 1 deadline.

Lawmakers in the House were still left uncertain about when they would need to be present to cast a vote to avert a default. The House, as of Monday evening, was set to depart Washington beginning Thursday afternoon before the Memorial Day weekend.

 ?? EVAN VUCCI AP ?? House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Bakersfiel­d, talks to reporters as Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., listens after Republican congressio­nal leaders met with President Joe Biden at the White House on Monday.
EVAN VUCCI AP House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Bakersfiel­d, talks to reporters as Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., listens after Republican congressio­nal leaders met with President Joe Biden at the White House on Monday.

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