San Francisco Chronicle

De La Salle personalit­ies make story compelling

- With Neil Hayes

An edited transcript of the conversati­on between Neil Hayes, whose book “When the Game Stands Tall” about the De La Salle High football program has been made into a movie that opens nationally Aug. 22, and KNBR’s Brian Murphy and Paul McCaffrey.

Murphy: The book was excellent and the work was done well, and those guys deserve it, too. A lot of people from the 925 area code might know who you mean when you say (coach Bob Ladouceur) and (defensive coordinato­r) Terry (Eidson), but how would you explain those two characters to everybody else? Hayes: Well, they’re complete opposites and I think that’s what makes them such an effective duo that accomplish­ed all they accomplish­ed. Terry is a huge extrovert — a big heavy metal and rock ’n’ roll fan; his idea of a great night is to go see a Tool concert. Lad is a total introvert — you have to absolutely drag him out. We couldn’t even get him to come down to the movie set, guys. The studio was offering all expenses paid, with top-class accommodat­ions, for a movie being made about his life, and Lad’s like, “Jeez, I don’t like to fly. … Hotels, I don’t enjoy that …” They’re like the odd couple, and I think them being so different is one of the things that made them so effective. Murphy: I wanted to ask about the connection to Peter Guber, the Warriors’ co-owner. He was one of the main producers of this, right? Is there a Bay Area connection there between Guber and De La Salle? Hayes: Well, Guber owns Mandalay, and it was a producer named David Zelon from Mandalay who first approached me about acquiring the movie rights to the book. McCaffrey: Here in the Bay Area, I think there’s a certain level of interest already, because we all know the story and want to see the movie about De La Salle. On a national level, is there a lot of buzz? What are you hearing about how this movie might be received or what the appetite for it might be on the national level? Hayes: Well, I’ll tell you what — the No. 1 rule in Hollywood is nobody knows anything. Richard Dreyfuss refused to do any media leading up to “Jaws” because he thought it was going to be a bomb, and Hollywood is filled with stories like that. So everybody is very cautious, and everyone is walking on eggshells. That said, guys, at screenings, it’s been incredibly well received. Murphy: The other question, just from a pure gossipy standpoint: Was there a celebrity on the red carpet at the premiere that you got a thrill out of seeing?

Hayes: Alexander Ludwig is the star of this thing — a great casting decision. He was in “The Hunger Games” and played Kato, and he was in “Lone Survivor” and is now starring in the (History Channel series) “Vikings.” He’s a huge teen heartthrob. I know him very well, and he’s a great dude, but it was great seeing him and watching the heads turn. Also, what a guy — whether you have a daughter who wants to meet him or something, he’ll come over and say, “Hey, would you mind if I took a picture with you?” He’s just been terrific from start to finish. Murphy: I think we’re going to have Guber on the week of the release, and we’ll continue to talk about the film on the show. Enjoy the ride, OK? Hayes: I’m trying to, that’s for sure!

 ?? Christophe­r Polk / Getty Images ?? Actor Jim Caviezel (left) plays then-De La Salle football coach Bob Ladouceur (right).
Christophe­r Polk / Getty Images Actor Jim Caviezel (left) plays then-De La Salle football coach Bob Ladouceur (right).

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