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Debra J. Saunders:

- Debra J. Saunders is a San Francisco Chronicle columnist. E-mail: dsaunders@ sfchronicl­e.com Twitter: @DebraJSaun­ders DEBRA J. SAUNDERS

Presidenti­al hopeful Ben Carson may just be the outsider the GOP wants — his demeanor is the opposite of Trumpoliti­cs.

Donald Trump may have cost Jeb Bush and Scott Walker front-runner status in national polls on the Republican presidenti­al primary, but he has been a veritable fairy godfather to Dr. Ben Carson. Recent polling put the retired neurosurge­on in second place, right behind The Donald. The chattering class says that GOP voters are looking for a nominee who doesn’t talk like a politician. Trump fits the bill, because he’s not afraid to toot his own horn and he is so very politicall­y incorrect. Carson fits the bill, because he’s not Trump.

Carson is the mild-mannered alternativ­e to the self-trumpeting reality TV star. Trump, after all, was born into privilege that he parlayed into vast wealth. Carson, an African American raised by a single mother who couldn’t read, parlayed his mother’s insistence on her children’s excellence into a barrier-breaking career as a brain surgeon. Trump bustled his way into first place by getting into brawls with the press and other candidates. Carson saw a bump in the polls by being the genial guy in last month’s Fox News presidenti­al debate. He drew a big laugh in his closing statement, when he accurately observed that he was the only candidate “to separate Siamese twins.”

Tuesday I went to hear Carson speak at the Commonweal­th Club in San Francisco. It will take a lot to convince me that he has the executive experience, political skills and foreign policy chops to take on intractabl­e bureaucrac­ies, partisans who will want to sabotage his success, China and ISIS.

That said, Carson passed my first test. Whenever I see a new GOP candidate, I ask myself the question on every Republican’s mind: Will this person embarrass me? Donald Trump, Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich failed in short order. Carson, on the other hand, makes the GOP look smartly inclusive.

Unlike Trump, Carson doesn’t write off entire groups as “losers.” He told the full-house San Francisco audience, “We can’t afford to throw any of our people away.” Unlike President Obama who frequently points to racial inequities in local police forces, Carson seems determined to bring people together with an uplifting message. When he was a young doctor, people mistook him for an orderly, but he didn’t see the mistake as deliberate­ly racist. “When people know each other,” he said, “it’s a completely different situation.”

Trump boasts that he has the perfect immigratio­n plan — deport all 11 million undocument­ed immigrants. Carson dispatched that fantasy when he said, “It sounds really cool, you know, ‘Let’s just round them all up and send them back.’ People who say that have no idea what that would entail in terms of our legal system, the costs. Forget about it. Plus, where are you going to send them? It’s just a double whammy.” Carson proposed making undocument­ed immigrants with clean records guest workers. That sounds like a bureaucrat­ic nightmare as well. It also seems like the status quo, which is what America gets when ideology meets political reality.

At a news conference after the speech, I asked Carson his view on San Francisco’s sanctuary-city policy. He gave a muddy answer: “A sanctuary-city policy, in general, is not something I would agree with.” And: “We are a country of rules.” As president, what, if anything, would he do about sanctuary cities? “I have to do what I can do legally. Obviously, I would want to work with Congress” to establish national policies. That’s a politician’s answer, but not a strong answer.

Carson told the audience his first mission would be “to get our fiscal house in order.” By simply refusing to increase the federal budget by one penny for three or four years, he said, he could balance the budget.

His suggestion sounded so good I contacted the Committee for a Responsibl­e Federal Budget to ask if it would deliver as promised. President Maya MacGuineas told me that if Washington froze all annual spending, it would “only take three years” to balance the budget. One problem: Somehow Washington would have to persuade creditors to forgo “the payments we owe them.” That’s not likely to happen. What about freezing everything but interest payments? Next problem: “That would take five years, and good luck telling seniors” that not only would they not be getting cost-of-living increases, they also might have to on receive smaller payments in order to accommodat­e the new people collecting benefits.

Freeze everything but debt payments, Social Security and Medicare, her team calculated, and Washington could balance the budget by 2030. She summed up Carson’s proposal as “an example of making the choices look easy by not making them.”

MacGuineas did appreciate Carson’s view that not all federal programs have to grow. She also said Carson had a “legitimate point” when he hit the federal government for holding onto some 77,000 unused or underutili­zed buildings while leasing space. It’s waste, pure and simple. When I told her that Carson said he wants to eliminate the home mortgage interest deduction as part of his flat tax plan — individual tax rates would be capped at perhaps 10 percent — she gave him credit for naming a popular tax deduction he would eliminate.

Carson’s amazing career has been punctuated with accolades and awards. He won the NAACP’s highest award, the Spingarn Medal, in 2006 and the Presidenti­al Medal of Freedom in 2008. I still wonder if a brilliant man, but with no political experience, can rule the White House. The audience didn’t seem worried. Likewise Carson. It will be hard for his opponents to reduce his life of outperform­ing expectatio­ns to a punch line.

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