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Expanding the definition of poetry and prayer

- By Evan Karp Evan Karp is the creator of Quiet Lightning and Litseen.com. Twitter: @quiet_ lightning

Shortly after winning the 2013 National Book Award for her second collection of poems, “Incarnadin­e,” Portland’s Mary Szybist told the Paris Review that she started writing poetry when she was young, after losing her ability to pray.

“I was devastated by it,” she said. “I missed being able to say words in my head that I believed could be heard by a being, a consciousn­ess outside me. That is when I turned to poetry.”

Szybist was raised Catholic, and “Incarnadin­e” focuses on the Annunciati­on, approachin­g it through many forms and perspectiv­es in an attempt, as she said in that interview, “to take the iconograph­y of the Annunciati­on out of the realm of symbol, where its meaning is predetermi­ned, and into the realm of contemplat­ion — a realm with room for doubt, investigat­ion, imaginatio­n, play.” The National Book Award judges called it “a religious book for nonbelieve­rs.”

Asked if she has come to think of poetry as more or less like prayer, she responded by email:

“While I still don’t think these are interchang­eable terms, I feel increasing­ly open to what both poetry and prayer can be. Can a poem be a poem without traditiona­l markers of poetry such as line, meter and rhyme? I think so. Can a prayer be a prayer without faith or belief? Maybe. I think so. After all, aren’t most personal prayers pitched against faith? Why would I need to speak to God if I believe God already knows what is in my heart?

“I’m not sure most prayer is primarily an expression of faith. If prayer is sometimes about trying to connect to presences beyond the self by giving voice to desires, struggles and bewilderme­nts, poems are sometimes about that too.”

Szybist is in residence at UC Berkeley this semester, teaching a course called Verse as the Holloway Lecturer in Poetry and Poetics. She said she began the workshop with counsel from Ralph Waldo Emerson: “People wish to be settled: only as far as they are unsettled is there any hope for them.”

“Poetry seems to me to be the place where things are allowed to be as complicate­d as they actually are,” Szybist said. She excels at making the complex seem simple without reducing either its complexity or its allure.

The following are the closing lines from “Happy Ideas,” a poem in “Incarnadin­e” inspired by Marcel Duchamp’s statement “I had the happy idea to fasten a bicycle wheel to a stool and watch it turn.”

“I had the happy idea that what I do not understand is more real than what I do, and then the happier idea to

buckle myself into two blue velvet shoes. I had the happy idea to polish

the reflecting glass and say hello to my own blue soul.

Hello, blue soul. Hello. It was my happiest idea.”

 ?? Joni Kabana ?? Mary Szybist is in residence at UC Berkeley.
Joni Kabana Mary Szybist is in residence at UC Berkeley.

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