San Francisco Chronicle

No-hands vans open to public

- By Dee-Ann Durbin

DETROIT — Fiat Chrysler and Google for the first time will offer rides to the public in the self-driving vehicles they are building under an expanding partnershi­p.

The companies announced in the spring of last year that they would build 100 self-driving Chrysler Pacifica hybrid minivans. Those vehicles have been tested in Arizona, California and Michigan.

Waymo, Google’s self-driving car project, said Tuesday that it will allow hundreds of people in Phoenix to take rides in the vehicles so that it can get feedback on the experi-

ence. Phoenix-area residents can apply on Waymo’s website.

The company also said that it’s expanding its fleet to 500 Pacifica hybrids.

Waymo, the new name for Google’s selfdrivin­g care spin-off, has given rides to the public before in its hometown of Mountain View. In 2015, it let a blind man ride around Austin, Texas, in one of its completely self-driving pods. The Phoenix program will be much larger in scale, and it will be the first to use the Pacifica minivans.

Waymo isn’t the first to put regular passengers in self-driving cars. Ride-hailing company Uber has had self-driving Volvos on the road in Pittsburgh since last fall. Boston startup nuTonomy is giving taxi rides to passengers in Singapore and Boston, and announced Tuesday that it had received approval to expand its testing program to two more neighborho­ods in Boston. In all cases, there is a backup driver behind the wheel.

Waymo said it wants to learn where people want to go in a selfdrivin­g vehicle, how they communicat­e with it and what kinds of informatio­n and controls they want.

Fiat Chrysler builds the Pacifica minivan in Windsor, Ontario, just across the border from Detroit. It adds Waymo’s self-driving software and hardware, including sensors and cameras, at a facility in Michigan. Fiat Chrysler’s U.S. headquarte­rs is in Auburn Hills, Mich.

“This collaborat­ion is helping both companies learn how to bring selfdrivin­g cars to market, and realize the safety and mobility benefits of this technology,” said Waymo CEO John Krafcik in a statement. Michelle Krebs, an executive analyst for the car shopping site Autotrader, says studies have shown that a majority of Americans are still reluctant to ride in a fully self-driving car. Opening Waymo’s vehicles to the public will help build riders’ confidence, she said.

“The key to acceptance is exposure and education,” she said.

Ultimately, Waymo says, self-driving cars could prevent many of the 1.2 million deaths that occur on roads worldwide each year.

Waymo has made clear that it intends to form partnershi­ps with automakers and not build its own self-driving cars. It’s also in talks with Honda Motor Co. about a potential collaborat­ion. Dee-Ann Durbin is an Associated Press writer.

 ?? HAND OUT / Uber ?? An illustrati­on shows Uber's proposal for flying vehicles.
HAND OUT / Uber An illustrati­on shows Uber's proposal for flying vehicles.
 ?? Brett Carlsen / New York Times ?? John Krafcik, Waymo’s CEO, speaks at an auto show in Detroit in January. The company is offering the public rides in its self-driving minivans in Phoenix.
Brett Carlsen / New York Times John Krafcik, Waymo’s CEO, speaks at an auto show in Detroit in January. The company is offering the public rides in its self-driving minivans in Phoenix.

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