San Francisco Chronicle

GREATEST TEAMS OF ALL TIME

Warriors in the conversati­on when it comes to hypothetic­al best ever

- By Bruce Jenkins Bruce Jenkins is a San Francisco Chronicle columnist. Email: bjenkins@sfchronicl­e.com Twitter: @Bruce_Jenkins1

The old-timers are lining up to denigrate the Warriors. Magic Johnson feels his “Showtime” Lakers of the 1980s were superior. Julius Erving figures his best 76ers team would prevail. Those who saw Michael Jordan’s Bulls teams up close won’t hear of any challenger­s.

They’re demanding that people get off their lawn, but those yards are long-since parched and abandoned. Eras pass, the game changes, and certain teams rise well above the rest. So it goes with the Warriors, who absolutely belong in the discussion of the all-time greatest teams. To place them within the top five, it says here, is entirely plausible.

This column comes from the standpoint of perspectiv­e. Throughout the 1960s, in Southern California or locally, I never missed an appearance by Bill Russell’s Boston Celtics or a chance to watch them on television. I’ve lived through Oscar Robertson and Elgin Baylor, Willis Reed and Dave Cowens, Isiah Thomas and Kevin McHale. If one thought prevails above all, it’s that analytic comparison­s seem inappropri­ate.

“It doesn’t make sense to me,” said Draymond Green, “nor do I get into it. Those teams were great in their time, we’re great in our time. Just respect that.” Added Stephen Curry: “The hypothetic­al game is never one I’ve played.”

The NBA has changed too drasticall­y to sort out the matchups. There was no such thing as a three-point shot before 1979, and now it’s a prerequisi­te for nearly everyone on the floor. There was a time when aggressive hand-checking was allowed on defense, as opposed to today’s freedom of movement. And the center position has become almost unrecogniz­able — especially in the Warriors’ case.

As we recall teams that won multiple championsh­ips within a five-year period — that’s the criterion here — such names as Russell, Willis Reed, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Robert Parish, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O’Neal and Tim Duncan come to mind. How do the Warriors compete with that as they alternate Zaza Pachulia, JaVale McGee and David West?

More to the point, take a hard look at the five players on the court when the Warriors need their best: Curry, Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, Green and Andre Iguodala. You could put all five of them on the U.S. Olympic team without much outcry. Each of them, in his own way, has a legendary brand of status in the league. How often have we seen that before?

With that as a launching point, here are the teams to be remembered above all:

1962-63 Celtics: Russell, Bob Cousy, Sam Jones, Tommy Heinsohn and Satch Sanders, with John Havlicek, K.C. Jones and Frank Ramsey on the bench. Those were the eight players who appeared in the climactic Game 6 win of the Finals over the Lakers — and all of them wound up in the Hall of Fame. Moreover, with essentiall­y the same cast year after year, the Celtics won eight straight titles and 11 of 13 in the Russell years. For sheer numbers and accomplish­ment, they stand alone. Also noteworthy: Celtics head coach Red Auerbach, oblivious to skin color, pioneered the expansive use of African American players (fielding the first all-black starting lineup in 1964) at a time when teams were reluctant to employ more than one or two.

1972-73 Knicks: Reed, Dave DeBusscher­e, Bill Bradley, Walt Frazier and Earl Monroe, with Jerry Lucas, Dean Meminger and Phil Jackson (in his gangly youth) off the bench. This lineup rivals the Warriors’ in every respect except outside shooting; Bradley and DeBusscher­e would have been the best from three-point range. And those starters are five of the most storied, decorated players in the game’s history. They moved the ball in dreamlike fashion, totally surrenderi­ng the notion of self. They certainly couldn’t run with the Warriors, and they wouldn’t try. Recalling this team in a halfcourt set completely buries the images of LeBron James’ Cavaliers.

1985-86 Celtics: This marked the culminatio­n of the Larry Bird era, knocking off the fabled Lakers in the Finals and going 40-1 at home in the regular season. Aside from the lineup of Bird, McHale, Parish, Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson, Bill Walton came off the bench in his last great season, joined by Scott Wedman and Jerry Sichting. The Warriors have faced some down-low threats during their three-year run, but nothing close to this team’s inside scoring ability. Bird’s passing and ingenuity have never been surpassed. McHale had the most reliable post-up moves of any forward in history. Put Walton in there, and the ball movement moved critics to tears. Curious: Once the Celtics came up with a plan (however effective) to stop Curry and Thompson, what would they do with Durant? 1986-87 Lakers: Magic has called this his favorite Lakers team, joining Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Byron Scott and A.C. Green in the starting lineup, with Michael Cooper, Mychal Thompson (Klay’s father) and Kurt Rambis off the bench. This was the fourth of five champions in the Magic era, and a team that rivaled the current Warriors for uproarious fun. In terms of talent, Scott and Green don’t match up with, say, Klay Thompson and Durant. But the Warriors wouldn’t have a prayer of stopping Kareem’s sky-hook, and nobody ever mastermind­ed a fastbreak like Magic. For certain: It wouldn’t be a Lakers sweep, as Magic claimed the other day. No chance. 1995-96 Bulls: This team went a best-ever 87-13 overall (.870), including a 72-win regular season that stood as the all-time record until Golden State posted 73 wins last season. Monday night’s Game 5 clincher left the Warriors at 83-16. But enough with the numbers. This is a matter of picturing the contempora­ry champs against Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Ron Harper, Dennis Rodman and Luc Longley, with Toni Kukoc, Bill Wennington and Steve Kerr (looks like Mike Brown would coach the Warriors in this fantasy game) in reserve. Nobody touches Jordan, ever, for allaround magnificen­ce. The Rodman-Green battles would be historic. Pippen, the league’s best defensive forward in his day, would take on Durant. Good lord, the drama.

For my money, that’s the top five Golden State would have to penetrate, with a second tier featuring Detroit’s back-toback champions (1989-90), the Shaq-Kobe Lakers of the early 2000s and the 2014 San Antonio Spurs, who dispatched James’ Miami Heat in five games. Erving’s 1982-83 76ers don’t qualify, as that core group won just one title, but it’s worth taking note of Erving, Moses Malone, Bobby Jones, Andrew Toney and Maurice Cheeks. The same goes for the 76ers of Wilt Chamberlai­n, Hal Greer and Chet Walker in 1966-67, the only year they could break through against Boston.

And we’ll leave it at that. Opinions and perspectiv­e welcome. Send your cards and letters to Ridiculous But Fun, 2821 Mythical Way, Nebulous, CA

 ?? Santiago Mejia / The Chronicle ?? The 2016-17 Golden State Warriors deserve to be in the spotlight as one of the greatest teams in NBA history after winning two titles in three years.
Santiago Mejia / The Chronicle The 2016-17 Golden State Warriors deserve to be in the spotlight as one of the greatest teams in NBA history after winning two titles in three years.
 ?? Mike Ehrmann / Getty Images ?? With their 16-1 run through the playoffs, the Warriors showed the talent that makes it plausible to consider them among the greatest NBA teams.
Mike Ehrmann / Getty Images With their 16-1 run through the playoffs, the Warriors showed the talent that makes it plausible to consider them among the greatest NBA teams.

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