San Francisco Chronicle

Russians can’t shake shadow of hacking

Local immigrants face jokes, scrutiny

- By Nellie Bowles

Pavel Cherkashin, a Russian investor in San Francisco, thought he had the perfect name for a Catholic church on which he is spending $11.5 million to convert into a tech palace. It would be called Hack Temple.

But that was before the nearly daily deluge of news about Russian efforts to influence the 2016 presidenti­al election by hacking computers and using Facebook and Twitter to spread inflammato­ry messages and sow division.

“We had so many concerns from our investors saying this would be inappropri­ate and we should change it,” said Cherkashin, 44, who planned to officially open Hack Temple this fall. “A bunch of Russian guys opening a

hacker temple in the middle of San Francisco at a time when Russian hackers are considered the most evil in the world. They say you can’t.”

With news of the hacking and influence campaigns escalating all year, Russian immigrants in Silicon Valley, who number in the tens of thousands, are in a strange new position. Some Russian venture capitalist­s said startups were more wary about taking their funding, while several Russianbor­n engineers said they were being treated differentl­y socially and in their companies. Lawyers also said some tech firms were installing tighter security measures restrictin­g what data foreign-born coders can see.

At the same time, many said that as Russia gained a reputation for its hackers, interest in hiring its tech talent was increasing.

The tension is new. Russian immigrants helped build the last generation of Silicon Valley behemoths: Google co-founder Sergey Brin and early Facebook investor Yuri Milner are Russian born.

Now when Cherkashin, a partner at GVA Capital, which is investing $120 million in startups, pitches companies on why they should take investment­s from him, he gets skeptical questions as soon as they hear his accent, he said.

“It feels like if you’re a politician and you fell into a sex scandal, and everybody knows you for this, and every time someone recognizes you they have this smile on their face, ‘So how’s your personal life doing?’ ” said Cherkashin, whose firm was incorporat­ed in the United States.

“This is how I feel every time I meet with an investor and they hear my Russian accent,” he added. “They have this smile on their face.”

Prospectiv­e partners and startups invariably ask the same question, Cherkashin said: Is his money clean?

“This question comes up two or three times a day,” he said. “I don’t think people would ask this question to a manager from another region.”

Julian Zegelman, an entreprene­ur and a lawyer who represents and invests in Russianspe­aking founders, said potential local tech partners worried they would accidental­ly get into business with the Russian government.

“They don’t want to be invested or dealing with companies whose technical talent is captive in Russia,” he said.

Zegelman said he had noticed that some cybersecur­ity firms, big tech companies, government customers and large venture capital firms were the most wary about working with new Russian immigrants. Yet some startups and small investment firms are more interested in Russian talent now.

“If you would have asked 10 years ago what Russia was known for, it would be Putin, the oligarchs and oil,” he said, referring to Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin. “Now when you ask folks, ‘What do you think about Russia?’ you get things back like: ‘Oh, great cryptograp­hy.’ ‘Oh, it’s a lot of talented engineers.’ ”

Leonard Grayver, a lawyer specializi­ng in startups who is on the board of the American Business Associatio­n of Russian-Speaking Profession­als, said the hacking had put Russian tech talent at “the forefront.” His firm brokers technology deals between Russia and Silicon Valley, handling tech licensing and talent acquisitio­ns, and he said the average size of a deal had risen to $4 million this year, from $1 million to $2 million last year.

And as companies staff up with Russian talent, he is getting a new question that he finds bizarre: “Are we letting the wolf in the henhouse?” Some companies have asked him to help arrange for heightened internal security, he added.

“A lot of clients are trying to find ways to hire those Russian hackers and at the same time institutin­g heightened security protocols internally,” he said. “They’re isolating source code so you don’t have access to the main tree.”

When young Russian technologi­sts first arrive in San Francisco, the person they often text is the investor Nicholas Davidov. The 30-year-old said he is part of what he called the New Wave, which is a group of Russian founders and engineers who came to Silicon Valley in the past few years. They gather at a Russian immigranto­wned bar in San Francisco, Rum & Sugar, and every Wednesday at a smoke shop in Redwood City, where they share stories.

Most of the comments Davidov and his friends now get are couched as jokes, he said.

“Somebody announced me on one of the conference­s where I was speaking and said, ‘I invited Nick because I wanted to collude with Russians,’ ” he said. “Just a lot of jokes.”

Davidov is an investor in Wallarm, a cybersecur­ity firm in San Francisco. He attributes Wallarm’s double-digit growth this year directly to the peculiar reputation that has come from the election-influence campaign and the fact that the company’s founders are Russian.

Ivan Novikov, 29, a co-founder and CEO of Wallarm, was less enthusiast­ic about how news of Russian interferen­ce in the election has affected his life.

“Technicall­y, any Russian who works in IT is a hacker, so we’re all ‘Russian hackers,’ and a lot of people like to mention it, but it’s not so funny when it’s 10 times per day or 10 times per party,” he said. “We definitely don’t like this hype about it.”

Some Russian-born entreprene­urs said they had noticed no change in how they were treated. Stanislav Shalunov, a co-founder of Open Garden, which develops peer-to-peer mesh networking software, said he had not experience­d anything different.

“With all this hacking news, I don’t think anyone alleges anyone from the Russian tech community in the U.S. is engaged in it,” he said. “And it’s pretty obvious that lots of people from Russia are getting hired.”

Back at what may only briefly be known as the Hack Temple (investors want a new name before it officially opens), two young Russian entreprene­urs made breakfast sandwiches in the rectory kitchen one morning last week. The building has eight bedrooms, some with bunks to fit up to four; a living room full of midcentury modern sofas; and a patio covered in artificial turf and often used for beer pong. Before Cherkashin bought the building in January 2016, it was Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe Church.

In the cavernous nave, the stained-glass saints were covered in gauzy panels to soften the religious feel. Volunteers have fixed the broken organ so it plays again, now for parties.

“If there would be a city in the world where you can go to church and a hackers’ house,” Cherkashin said, “it would only be this one.”

On the wall along one of the aisles, Evgeniy Lapchenko, the Ukrainian artist, has remade Hieronymus Bosch’s “Garden of Earthly Delights.” Among the twisted human figures are tech luminaries: Apple co-founder Steve Jobs taking a selfie, revelers at Burning Man and Brin of Google in a selfdrivin­g car.

As for rebranding Hack Temple, Cherkashin has not found a new name he likes.

“It can be called the Startup Temple,” he said. “But it’s just too boring.”

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Jason Henry / New York Times
 ?? Photos by Jason Henry / New York Times ?? Pavel Cherkashin, a Russian investor, is turning a San Francisco church, above, into a tech space that he had planned to call Hack Temple.
Photos by Jason Henry / New York Times Pavel Cherkashin, a Russian investor, is turning a San Francisco church, above, into a tech space that he had planned to call Hack Temple.

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