Santa Cruz Sentinel

Pence, Harris to take spotlight

- By Steve Peoples, Kathleen Ronayne and Jill Colvin

Vice President Mike Pence and his Democratic challenger, California Sen. Kamala Harris, are poised to meet Wednesday for a debate that will offer starkly different visions for a country confrontin­g escalating crises. The faceoff in Salt Lake City is the most highly anticipate­d vice presidenti­al debate in recent memory. It will unfold while President Donald Trump recovers at the White House after testing positive last week for the coronaviru­s and spending several days in the hospital, a serious setback for his campaign that adds pressure on Pence to defend the administra­tion’s handling of the pandemic.

For Harris, the debate is her highest-profile opportunit­y to vocalize how the Democratic presidenti­al nominee, Joe Biden, would stabilize the U.S., especially when it comes to resolving the pandemic and addressing racial injustice. She will be able to explain her views on law enforcemen­t, an area in which she’s viewed warily by some progressiv­es, given her past as a prosecutor.

Ultimately, the debate is a chance for voters to decide whether Pence and Harris are in a position to step into the presidency at a moment’s notice. It’s hardly a theoretica­l question as the 74-year-old Trump combats the virus, and Biden, at 77, would become the oldest person to become president if he’s elected.

While the debate will likely cover a range of topics, the virus will be at the forefront.

Pence and Harris will appear on stage exactly 12.25 feet (3.7 meters) apart separated by plexiglass barriers. Anyone in the small audience who refuses to wear a mask will be asked to leave.

Pence, who was with Trump and others last week who have since tested positive, has faced questions about whether he should be at the debate at all. The vice president has repeatedly tested negative for the virus, and his staff and doctors insist he does not need to quarantine under Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines.

The CDC defines risky “close contact” as being within 6 feet (1.8 meters) of an infected person for at least 15 minutes starting from two days before the onset of symptoms or a positive test.

Pence’s team objected to Harris’ request for plexiglass barriers, arguing it was medically unnecessar­y. But the Commission on Presidenti­al Debates had already agreed to the barriers, and Pence’s aides said their presence wouldn’t dissuade him from attending the event.

Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short, said there is “zero risk” of the vice president pulling out of the debate over the plexiglass spat. He said Pence “will be there” because it’s “too important for the American people.”

“The hesitancy seems to be on other side,” he added.

Sabrina Singh, a spokespers­on for Harris, said the senator “will be at the debate, respecting the protection­s that the Cleveland

Clinic has put in place to promote safety for all concerned.” The Cleveland Clinic serves as a health adviser to the Commission on Presidenti­al Debates.

Despite the early sparring, the debate is unlikely to be a repeat of the chaotic debate between Trump and Biden last week.

Pence is eager to seize on Harris and Biden’s liberal policies, but it may be difficult to shift the conversati­on away from the Republican administra­tion’s uneven handling of the pandemic. Pence serves as chair of the president’s coronaviru­s task force, which has failed to implement a comprehens­ive national strategy even as Trump himself

recovers from the disease and the national death toll surges past 210,000 with no clear end in sight.

The vice president is a 61-year- old former Indiana governor and ex-radio host, an evangelica­l Christian known for his folksy charm and unwavering loyalty to Trump.

Harris is a 55-year- old California senator, the daughter of a Jamaican father and an Indian mother. She is also a former prosecutor whose pointed questionin­g of Trump’s Supreme Court nominees and cool charm on the campaign trail made her a Democratic star.

She will make history as the first Black woman to ap

pear in a vice presidenti­al debate. Democrats hope the historic nature of her candidacy will help energize key groups of likely Democratic voters — African Americans and young people, in particular — who have shown less excitement for Biden.

It’s unclear how aggressive the candidates will be with each other.

Both have adopted a cautious approach on the trail, keeping in line with past running mates who, above all, are tasked with not hurting their party’s ticket.

Some Harris allies fear that a conservati­ve approach will prevent her from shining.

“Overly scripting Kamala Harris is tantamount to removing five bullets out of her gun before you walk into a gun fight,” said Nathan Barankin, who served as Harris’ chief of staff in the Senate and when she was California attorney general.

While some Democrats have set high expectatio­ns for the debate, Harris and her allies have been trying to keep them low. Last month, when California’s state Senate president told Harris on a Zoom call that home state fans were excited to watch her debate, Harris quickly interjecte­d.

“He’s a good debater,” she said, laughing. “I’m just, I’m so concerned, like I can only disappoint.”

Gender will likely play a role in the debate, Hillary Clinton, the first woman to lead a presidenti­al ticket, said during a recent fundraiser.

She suggested Pence would try to paint Harris as “the inexperien­ced woman candidate.” Harris will have to be mindful of the double standard for women in politics as she responds, Clinton said.

“She’s got to be firm and effective in rebutting any implicatio­n that comes from the other side, but to do it in a way that doesn’t, you know, scare or alienate voters,” Clinton said.

Harris has been preparing for the debate in Salt Lake City since Saturday. Karen Dunn, a Washington lawyer who helped prepare Clinton for her 2016 debates against Trump, is leading Harris’ debate preparatio­ns.

 ?? AP PHOTO — JULIO CORTEZ ?? A camera operator is surrounded by plexiglass panels to protect against COVID-19 as preparatio­ns take place for the vice presidenti­al debate at the University of Utah, Tuesday in Salt Lake City. The vice presidenti­al debate between Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic vice presidenti­al candidate, Sen. Kamala Harris is scheduled for Oct. 7.
AP PHOTO — JULIO CORTEZ A camera operator is surrounded by plexiglass panels to protect against COVID-19 as preparatio­ns take place for the vice presidenti­al debate at the University of Utah, Tuesday in Salt Lake City. The vice presidenti­al debate between Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic vice presidenti­al candidate, Sen. Kamala Harris is scheduled for Oct. 7.

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