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Ex-CIA chief recounts fears over Trump ties

Former director voiced concern over suspicious contacts with Russia

- By Matt Apuzzo

WASHINGTON — John Brennan, the former CIA director, described on Tuesday a nerve-fraying few months last year as U.S. authoritie­s realized that the presidenti­al election was under attack and feared that Donald Trump’s campaign might be aiding that fight.

Brennan, in testimony before the House Intelligen­ce Committee, said he was concerned by a series of suspicious contacts between Russian government officials and Trump’s associates. The CIA learned about those meetings just as it was beginning to grapple with Russian hackers and propagandi­sts trying to manipulate the presidenti­al race.

His remarks were the fullest public account to date of the origins of an FBI investigat­ion that continues to shadow the Trump administra­tion.

“I know what the Russians try to do,” Brennan said. “They try to suborn individual­s and try to get individu-

als, including U.S. individual­s, to act on their behalf, wittingly or unwittingl­y.”

When he left his post in January, he said, “I had unresolved questions in my mind as to whether or not the Russians had been successful in getting U.S. persons involved in the campaign or not to work on their behalf.”

Brennan acknowledg­ed that he did not know whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russian operatives and said the contacts might have been benign.

U.S. intelligen­ce agencies have concluded that the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, tried to damage Hillary Clinton’s candidacy and help Trump. On Aug. 4, as evidence of that campaign mounted, Brennan warned Alexander Bortnikov, the director of Russia’s Federal Security Service, known as the FSB, not to meddle in the election. Not only would such interferen­ce damage relations between the countries, he said, it was also certain to backfire.

“I said that all Americans, regardless of political affiliatio­n or whom they might support in the election, cherish their ability to elect their own leaders without outside interferen­ce or disruption,” Brennan said. “I said American voters would be outraged by any Russian attempt to interfere in the election.”

Brennan’s prediction proved inaccurate. Though intelligen­ce agencies are unanimous in their belief that Russia directly interfered in the election, it has become a divisive partisan issue, with Democrats far more likely than Republican­s to accept the conclusion. Trump has declared that “Russia is fake news” and has tried to undermine the conclusion­s of his own intelligen­ce services.

He has also tried repeatedly to beat back news reports about his campaign’s ties to Russia. White House officials tried to enlist the FBI and CIA to dispute stories early this year. Then, after the FBI publicly confirmed its investigat­ion, Trump asked Dan Coats, the director of national intelligen­ce, and Michael Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, to publicly deny any collusion between Russia and his campaign, according to two former U.S. officials. The Washington Post first reported Trump’s entreaties.

On the day of the FBI’s confirmati­on, a call from the White House switchboar­d came in to Coats’ office with a request to speak to the director, a former intelligen­ce official said. Calls from the switchboar­d are usually from the highest-ranking officials at the White House — the president, the vice president or the national security adviser.

Coats took the call. The official would not confirm what was discussed.

Coats, who testified on Tuesday in a separate congressio­nal hearing, declined to discuss his conversati­ons with the president.

The White House regarded Brennan’s testimony as the latest example of a former official from the Obama administra­tion describing great concern but offering no public proof of wrongdoing.

“This morning’s hearings back up what we’ve been saying all along: that despite a year of investigat­ion, there is still no evidence of any Russia-Trump campaign collusion,” the White House said in a statement on Tuesday.

During the campaign, a spokeswoma­n for Trump declared that “there was no communicat­ion” with foreign entities. And in January, Vice President Mike Pence flatly denied that there had been any contacts with Russians. Journalist­s have since reported repeated undisclose­d meetings with Russians. Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign over misstateme­nts about his conversati­ons with the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak.

A Justice Department special counsel, Robert Mueller III, is investigat­ing whether any collusion took place. A grand jury in Northern Virginia has issued subpoenas for informatio­n related to Flynn’s lobbying and businesses. That investigat­ion is separate from multiple congressio­nal investigat­ions into Russian meddling. Flynn has declined to be interviewe­d or provide documents to Congress, citing his constituti­onal right not to incriminat­e himself.

The Senate Intelligen­ce Committee on Tuesday issued subpoenas for documents from two businesses owned by Flynn — Flynn Intel LLC and Flynn Intel Inc. — escalating efforts to learn more about his potential business ties to Russia.

Sen. Richard M. Burr, R-N.C., the committee’s chairman, left open the possibilit­y of holding Flynn in contempt of Congress.

“At the end of that option is a contempt charge,” he told reporters on Capitol Hill. “And I’ve said that everything is on the table.”

But the committee’s members are not ready to take that step, Burr said, adding that they want to give Flynn the opportunit­y he requested to tell his story.

During his testimony on Tuesday, Brennan described Russia’s efforts around the world to use politician­s to further Moscow’s objectives. “I certainly was concerned that they were practicing the same types of activities here in the United States,” he said.

He added that American targets were often unwitting in such efforts. “Frequently, people who go along a treasonous path do not know they are on a treasonous path until it is too late,” he said.

Brennan said Russia was trying to capitalize on the turmoil in Washington. “Even though the election is over,” he said, “I think Mr. Putin and Russian intelligen­ce services are trying to actively exploit what is going on now in Washington to their benefit and to our detriment.”

 ?? AL DRAGO THE NEW YORK TIMES ?? John Brennan, the former director of the CIA, testifies Tuesday before the House Intelligen­ce Committee on Capitol Hill. ‘I had unresolved questions in my mind as to whether or not the Russians had been successful in getting U.S. persons involved in...
AL DRAGO THE NEW YORK TIMES John Brennan, the former director of the CIA, testifies Tuesday before the House Intelligen­ce Committee on Capitol Hill. ‘I had unresolved questions in my mind as to whether or not the Russians had been successful in getting U.S. persons involved in...

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