Santa Fe New Mexican

Mulvaney struggles to explain comments on Ukraine

- By Katie Rogers and Emily Cochrane

WASHINGTON — Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, tried again Sunday to back off assertions he made to reporters last week that the Trump administra­tion had held up an aid package to Ukraine because the president wanted the country to investigat­e Democrats, acknowledg­ing he did not have a “perfect press conference.”

During an appearance on

Fox News Sunday, Mulvaney disagreed with an assertion by the show’s anchor, Chris Wallace, that Mulvaney’s remarks were proof of a quid pro quo, an exchange the president has publicly denied for weeks. But he struggled to explain how his comments Sunday were not at odds with what he said last week.

“That’s what people are saying that I said, but I didn’t say that,” Mulvaney said, adding that he had outlined “two reasons” for withholdin­g the aid to Ukraine in a news briefing with reporters Thursday. In the briefing, however, he outlined three reasons: the corruption in the country, whether other countries were also giving aid to Ukraine and whether Ukrainian officials were cooperatin­g in a Justice Department investigat­ion.

Wallace played back Mulvaney’s appearance before reporters in which he said the president’s concern about interferen­ce in the 2016 election — and his interest in a widely debunked theory that a Democratic National Committee server is being held in Ukraine — was part of that final reason for withholdin­g aid.

Pressed by Wallace, Mulvaney said he was “not acknowledg­ing there’s three reasons.”

“You said three reasons,” Wallace said.

“I recognize that,” Mulvaney responded. But he urged Wallace “to go back to what actually happened in the real world.”

“I recognize that I didn’t speak clearly, maybe, on Thursday,” he said. “Folks misinterpr­eted what I said. But the facts are absolutely clear, and they are there for everyone to see.”

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