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Nadler says Trump violated laws

House Judiciary Committee’s chair eyes more evidence

- By Karoun Demirjian

The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee says the president “richly deserves impeachmen­t.”

WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee said Sunday that he believes President Donald Trump “richly deserves impeachmen­t,” an explosive statement from the lawmaker whose committee has the power to launch proceeding­s to remove the president from office.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, DN.Y., appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union,” said Trump “has done many impeachabl­e offenses, he’s violated the law six ways from Sunday.”

“But that’s not the question,” Nadler continued. “The question is, can we develop enough evidence to put before the American people?”

The distinctio­n illustrate­s a growing tension within the Democratic Party: Many members are convinced Trump ought to be impeached, but the consensus among party leaders is that they should try to secure more records and witness interviews through the courts before embarking on such a politicall­y incendiary move, especially as the GOPcontrol­led Senate is likely to defeat such an effort.

Nadler’s comments come on the heels of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s congressio­nal testimony on his investigat­ion into Russian interferen­ce in the 2016 election. Nadler called the testimony “an inflection point, in that it broke the administra­tion’s lie, the attorney general’s lie, that the president was fully exonerated by the Mueller report.”

As the leader of the committee that would launch the impeachmen­t hearings, Nadler is the most important Democrat yet to publicly state his personal support for the cause in no uncertain terms. But he has been loath to cross House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in his official moves — and gave no sign Sunday that he intended to break with that pattern

“We’re investigat­ing the corruption of the administra­tion, the abuses of power . . . all the things that might cause us to recommend articles of impeachmen­t,” Nadler said. “We now have to get further evidence and put it before the American people as we consider articles of impeachmen­t.”

Pelosi has regularly resisted the calls from her caucus for impeachmen­t proceeding­s, but last week, she signed off on the House Judiciary Committee’s appeal to a federal judge to enforce its subpoenas seeking the redacted grand jury informatio­n contained in the Mueller report. Nadler also told reporters that the panel would go to court next week to enforce its subpoenas against former White House counsel Donald McGahn, whose testimony was key to the report.

Speaking on NBC News’s “Meet the Press,” House Intelligen­ce Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, DCalif., said Sunday that Trump could tip the scales toward impeachmen­t if he continued “to obstruct the Congress in its lawful and constituti­onal duty” to conduct its investigat­ions and oversight of the administra­tion.

“If we can’t get adequate answers from the court in time, that in itself will be an impeachabl­e offense,” Schiff said, noting that even if Trump’s efforts to block congressio­nal investigat­ions do not constitute a “crime” that Mueller could have prosecuted, such misdemeano­rs could form a basis for impeachmen­t.

But, the Democrat continued, that is not the only considerat­ion in determinin­g whether — or when — to impeach Trump.

“There’s no making the case to the cult of the president’s personalit­y that is the Senate GOP, but we should at least be able to make the case to the American people,” Schiff said. “I want to make sure that that’s true before we go down this path.”

Schiff suggested that Democrats would have to make that call sometime in

“There’s no making the case to the cult of the president’s personalit­y that is the Senate GOP, but we should at least be able to make the case to the American people.” House Intelligen­ce Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif.

the fall; Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif., who serves on both the Intelligen­ce and Oversight committees, suggested on CNN last week that the House would have to act by September.

On Sunday, Nadler rejected the suggestion that Democrats might be running out of time to launch formal impeachmen­t proceeding­s because of the approachin­g 2020 election.

“We have to defend the Constituti­on against these kinds of unconstitu­tional and illegal deeds,” he said. “We have to do this, whatever time frame there is.”

Nadler would not say directly whether he felt Trump should be prosecuted for obstructio­n of justice or other alleged crimes after leaving office — but hinted he might be in favor of it.

“Anyone else who had done what he did would have been indicted on a charge of at least five different major crimes,” Nadler said. “And a president who is immune from prosecutio­n by virtue of the Justice Department’s saying that every president’s immune from prosecutio­n should be prosecuted after he leaves office — or at least impeach him and remove him from office, if you can prove those crimes.”

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