President: Counsel isn’t a ‘rat’

Interview not a worry to Trump

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump insisted Sunday that he’s unconcerned by reports that the White House counsel, Don McGahn, has cooperated extensively with special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible Russian collusion and obstruction of justice.

The president said on Twitter that McGahn was not a “rat.”

“I have nothing to hide,” Trump said.

The president’s latest series of disparaging Twitter posts came at what may be a pivotal point in the investigation into Russia’s election interference, possible Trump campaign complicity and any obstruction of justice.

The New York Times reported Saturday that McGahn had voluntarily spent 30 hours in interviews with Mueller’s team, acting in

part on fears that Trump would try to shift the blame to him for any wrongdoing.

Trump, spending the weekend at his New Jersey golf resort, said he was not worried about whatever McGahn had told investigators, adding he had authorized his aides’ cooperation with the special counsel. The New York Times report noted that McGahn knew about many events central to the possible obstruction of justice case being built by Mueller’s team.

Trump voiced confidence that McGahn was not a “John Dean type of RAT,” referring to the Watergateera White House lawyer whose testimony helped bring down President Richard Nixon. Although the substance of McGahn’s statements to Mueller is not publicly known, Dean went on Twitter on Saturday to praise the White House counsel for “doing right.”

Meanwhile, a parallel Mueller-related drama was playing itself out. A federal jury was set Monday to resume deliberations in the trial of Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, who is on trial on tax evasion and bank fraud charges.

Trump, who in recent months has issued presidential pardons to some political supporters, last week took the highly unusual step of publicly opining about the case while the jury, which is not sequestered, was still out. The president said Manafort had been treated badly and was a “very good person.”

For the past week, the White House has also been confronted with a steady drip of allegations by fired presidential aide Omarosa Manigault Newman, who became a reality-show star under Trump’s tutelage. She is promoting a book billed as a tell-all about her months in the White House, with some elements of her story backed by surreptitiously made recordings.

In addition, the president has prompted an outcry by stripping former CIA Director John Brennan, an outspoken critic, of his security clearance, with the White House indicating more such revocations are in the works. Dozens of retired intelligence professionals, including prominent former agency chiefs, have called the president’s move against Brennan an act of petty vengeance motivated by an improper desire to muzzle critics.

Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “truth isn’t truth.”

About the possibility of Trump submitting to an interview with prosecutors, Giuliani said: “I’m not going to be rushed into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury. And when you tell me that he should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, well that’s so silly because that’s somebody’s version of the truth, not the truth.”

“Truth is truth,” Chuck Todd, the “Meet the Press” moderator, replied.

“No, it isn’t,” Giuliani responded. “Truth isn’t truth.”