Texarkana Gazette

McGahn testifies before House panel

- MARY CLARE JALONICK AND ERIC TUCKER Informatio­n for this article was contribute­d by Mark Sherman and Scott Applewhite of The Associated Press.

WASHINGTON — The House Judiciary Committee questioned former White House counsel Don McGahn privately Friday, two years after House Democrats originally sought his testimony as part of investigat­ions into former President Donald Trump.

The long-awaited interview is the result of an agreement reached last month in federal court, and a transcript will be publicly released within a week. House Democrats — then investigat­ing whether Trump tried to obstruct the Justice Department’s probes into his presidenti­al campaign’s ties to Russia — originally sued after McGahn defied an April 2019 subpoena on Trump’s orders.

That same month, the Justice Department released a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on the matter. In the report, Mueller pointedly did not exonerate Trump of obstructio­n of justice but also did not recommend prosecutin­g him, citing Justice Department policy against indicting a sitting president. Mueller’s report quoted extensivel­y from interviews with McGahn, who described

the Republican president’s efforts to stifle the investigat­ion.

While the Judiciary panel eventually won its fight for McGahn’s testimony, the court agreement placed limits on it. The two sides agreed that McGahn would be questioned privately and would be compelled to answer questions only about publicly available portions of Mueller’s report.

House Democrats kept the case going, even past Trump’s presidency, and moved forward with the interview to make an example of the former White

House counsel after dozens of Trump administra­tion officials refused to answer questions from Congress on various matters. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., said the agreement for McGahn’s testimony was a good-faith compromise that “satisfies our subpoena, protects the Committee’s constituti­onal duty to conduct oversight in the future, and safeguards sensitive executive branch prerogativ­es.”

It is unclear what House Democrats will do with the testimony, which they sought before twice impeaching Trump. The Senate acquitted Trump of impeachmen­t charges both times.

At a break during the interview, Nadler said McGahn was being “somewhat difficult” at times during the interview, but did not characteri­ze what he had said. Nadler said there were a handful of Democrats and Republican lawmakers in the room in addition to staff who were leading the questionin­g.

As White House counsel, McGahn had an insider’s view of many of the episodes that Mueller and his team examined for potential obstructio­n of justice during the Russia investigat­ion. McGahn proved a pivotal — and damning — witness against Trump, with his name mentioned hundreds of times in the text of the Mueller report and its footnotes.

Trump’s Justice Department fought efforts to have McGahn testify even after District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson in 2019 rejected arguments that Trump’s close advisers were immune from congressio­nal subpoena. President Joe Biden’s administra­tion helped negotiate the final agreement.

 ?? (AP/J. Scott Applewhite) ?? Former White House counsel Don McGahn arrives Friday on Capitol Hill to meet with the House Judiciary Committee. More photos at arkansason­line.com/65mcgahn/.
(AP/J. Scott Applewhite) Former White House counsel Don McGahn arrives Friday on Capitol Hill to meet with the House Judiciary Committee. More photos at arkansason­line.com/65mcgahn/.

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