The Columbus Dispatch

Trump feels immune, his lawyer says

- By Matt Apuzzo

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is confident that neither his former campaign chairman nor his former national security adviser has damaging informatio­n about him to offer prosecutor­s, a White House lawyer told The New York Times.

“The president has no concerns in terms of any impact, as to what happens to them, on his campaign or on the White House,” the lawyer, Ty Cobb, said in an interview Thursday for The Times’ podcast “The New Washington.”

The Justice Department special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, is investigat­ing whether anyone close to Trump worked with Russian operatives to disrupt last year’s presidenti­al election. He has summoned witnesses before a federal grand jury in Washington to gather informatio­n about Paul Manafort, Trump’s former

campaign chairman; Michael Flynn, the retired general and former national security adviser; and other associates of Trump.

According to CNN, the first round of charges in Mueller’s investigat­ion were approved Friday — but it’s still not known what they are or who they target. A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., approved the charges, CNN reported Friday, citing sources briefed in the matter. The network said plans were being made to take anyone charged into custody on Monday.

Manafort has been warned in the past to expect an indictment, raising the prospect that Mueller will offer him leniency in exchange for incriminat­ing informatio­n about Trump. Cobb’s remarks echo what those around Manafort have said: that he has no such informatio­n to offer. Trump has sought to play down the significan­ce of Manafort’s role with the campaign.

“He likes and respects Mr. Manafort and appreciate­s the work he did for him during the three months he was with the campaign. He likes Gen. Flynn personally, but understand­s that they have their own path with the special counsel,” Cobb said. “I think he would be sad for them, as a friend and a former colleague, if the process results in punishment or indictment­s. But to the extent that that happens, that’s beyond his control.”

Mueller is investigat­ing whether Manafort violated federal tax laws or lobbied on behalf of foreign officials without registerin­g. His team is also investigat­ing Manafort for possible money laundering. Many of the activities Mueller is scrutinizi­ng date back years, well before Manafort joined the Trump campaign.

“Mr. Manafort has said from the beginning neither he nor anyone else in the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to undermine the 2016 election,” said Jason Maloni, a spokesman for Manafort. “Finally, everyone seems to be coming to that same conclusion.”

Mueller is also examining Flynn’s financial ties to Russia and whether he concealed lobbying he did last year for Turkey.

The White House has given Mueller’s team documents related to Manafort and Flynn, as well as the firing of FBI Director James Comey and other topics. Trump has instructed all White House staff members to cooperate with investigat­ors, Cobb said.

Mueller has begun interviewi­ng the staff members, but he has not yet asked to speak with Trump. “We’d have to address that in the future if they see a need to talk to him,” Cobb said.

Cobb said none of the White House documents turned over to Mueller showed evidence that anyone colluded with Russia, or that Trump tried to obstruct justice. The president is fully cooperatin­g with the special counsel, he said.

“I think the path that he chose of trying to minimize conflict and maximize cooperatio­n is one that benefits the country as he tries to erase this cloud,” Cobb said. “Which I think he will ultimately achieve.”

He did not say when he believed that would happen, but he predicted the end of the investigat­ion was nearing.

“I don’t think that it’s far away,” he said.

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