The Columbus Dispatch

Adam Schiff is the congressma­n Trump wants you to hate

- Nicholas Kristof writes for The New York Times. Facebook.com/kristof

two failed trials led by other prosecutor­s — against an FBI agent accused of spying for Russia for sex and money.

Now he’s again investigat­ing alleged Russia-related wrongdoing by a federal employee, only this time the employee is the president.

Trump and his supporters are trying to “Pelosify” Schiff. Rep. Andy Biggs, R-ariz., is calling for a censure of Schiff for pursuing “a witch hunt in a fantasy land.”

All this is bizarre. Schiff has not even come out for impeachmen­t, saying that such decisions should await the investigat­ion, although he is blunt about describing Trump as a danger to the country. Schiff was chosen to lead the impeachmen­t inquiry precisely because of his reputation not as a bombthrowe­r but as a reasonable lawyer who will oversee a meticulous inquiry.

“If that makes me appear as a partisan, I’m willing to accept that,” Schiff told me. “The way I view it, my role is to defend our democracy at a time when it is deeply at risk.”

After Harvard Law School, Schiff worked as a prosecutor, dabbled in politics and began writing screenplay­s — he’s still writing them.

In Congress, Schiff gravitated toward national security issues. He was active in trying to address the genocide in Darfur, identified with the Blue Dog group of moderate Democrats and joined the House Intelligen­ce Committee — one of those nonglamoro­us places where hearings are often closed and there are few chances for grandstand­ing.

On Capitol Hill, Schiff is known as a slightly goofy nerd who recites endless lines from the movie “The Big Lebowski.”

These days, Schiff said, he’s trying to proceed as fast as possible with the impeachmen­t investigat­ion, but he resisted my attempts to pin him to a timeline. “When you consider how much we have learned in the last three weeks, it’s breathtaki­ng,” he said. “It’s terrifying.”

He said that his committee is investigat­ing whether there is a recording of the call between Trump and Ukraine’s president, either in the U.S. or in Ukraine.

Schiff was particular­ly scathing about Attorney General William Barr. “He’s the second-most dangerous person in the country,” Schiff said. “In his own way, he’s as much of a threat to the rule of law as the president.”

I asked if the House might, in a bid to compel testimony, exercise its “inherent contempt” authority and send the sergeant-at-arms out to arrest people and lock them up in the Capitol. Schiff said he had ruled this out but was considerin­g fining those who refuse to cooperate.

He acknowledg­ed some missteps, including misleading comments about his committee’s contact with the whistleblo­wer. I argued that we might be better off if hearings were public; he responded that initial hearings need to be closed to keep witnesses from knowing what others have said, but he added that “all these transcript­s are going to be made public.”

The larger issue, he said, is that democracy throughout the world is under threat. “This is bigger than Trump: It started before Trump; it won’t end with Trump,” he said. “The bigger picture is democracy is hanging in the balance, and we remain its best hope.”

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