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Buy now pay later aces credit cards MONEY & MARKETS EXTRA

- Interviewe­d by Ken Sweet. Edited for clarity and length.

Sebastian Siemiatkow­ski is a co-founder and CEO of Klarna, the Sweden-based company that’s one of the world’s biggest providers of buy now, pay later services to customers. Klarna started off in Europe and entered the U.S. market in 2015.

Buy now, pay later has become an increasing­ly popular option for consumers for purchases: its usage is up 10-fold since the pandemic and U.S. regulators see it as potentiall­y a more sustainabl­e way for borrows to pay for purchases instead of using credit cards.

Siemiatkow­ski spoke to the AP about how popular buy now, pay later has gotten since the pandemic and why consumers are choosing it.

You operated in Europe for several years before coming to the U.S. What made you come here?

As we were considerin­g coming to the US, we identified that there was a fairly large group of U.S. consumers that they called self-aware avoiders, people had been burned by the bad practices of credit cards. We found there is a fairly big audience that is preferring to use debit but occasional­ly want to use credit on single occasions and where buy now pay later, you know, fits them really well.

How are merchants adapting to buy now, pay later as an option?

Merchants are getting access to customers that they may not have had access to before, through the option of getting interest-free credit. So these merchants are seeing higher order value and more spending. Roughly 20% of the spending volume for Klarna is now coming through our own app, but it allows the merchants to keep operating their own websites, so they can control how they present their items, how they are produced.

How’s the health of the consumer? While buy now, pay later is growing as a payment method, I’ve been talking to retailers and the overarchin­g numbers have been slightly more difficult for retailers than last year. We saw on Black Friday that sales were driven, by a large degree, by discountin­g. So, it’s a bit of a tougher macroecono­mic environmen­t climate we are looking at.

We have credit card debt back at $1 trillion in the U.S., so I feel like we are at the end of the economic cycle and a tougher environmen­t for consumers.

Klarna announced a hiring freeze in November, citing the increasing use o artificial intelligen­ce. What is the background for this decision?

We became one of the first corporate customers of Openai when it launched earlier this year and we have been using it across the entire organizati­on. But as a CEO, you cannot entirely predict how a technology would be applied and what and where it will have the biggest impact So what we are doing is encouragin­g different teams to use it as much as possible and double down on where it really has worked.

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Sebastian Siemiatkow­ski CEO and Co-founder Klarna

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