The Day

What Uber drivers think about their CEO yelling at one of their own

- By STEVEN OVERLY

A slew of fascinatin­g passengers have ridden in the back seat of Mike Twist’s car since he started driving for Uber last summer. Others have been less pleasant, the Boston resident said, such as the passenger who threw a bottle at him.

So when a video surfaced Tuesday of Uber Chief Executive Travis Kalanick arguing with and cursing at a driver at the end of his ride, Twist was “incensed” that the executive’s behavior seemed to tacitly condone the mistreatme­nt of drivers.

“It’s a trickle-down way of treating people, and it really hit me personally and made me see that” starts at the top, Twist said. “I’ve always felt if you treat an employee or partner with respect, they’re going to go the extra mile generally.”

The driver in the video, Fawzi Kamel, told NBC News that he was frustrated that Uber had introduced low-cost services, such as UberX and Uber Pool, that are less lucrative for drivers, especially those who purchased more expensive vehicles when Uber was exclusivel­y a luxury service.

Kalanick later issued an apology and said he would seek leadership help, but not before the video featured prominentl­y on major media outlets and made the rounds in online forums where Uber drivers gather to swap stories, complaints and advice.

The comments did not simply pile criticism on Kalanick or Uber, however. For many, the driver wasn’t exactly blameless.

“I better Never have a driver treat me like that!” one poster remarked.

Others remarked that the way the driver spoke to Kalanick would be a fireable offense if it were any other passenger.

“If I did that to anyone off the street, I wouldn’t be driving,” someone offered.

To Twist, the driver was unprofessi­onal but Kalanick should also have responded differentl­y. “As the CEO and founder of such a large company, he is never really off duty,” he said.

The video shows Kalanick riding in the back seat of an Uber black car with two companions. As he prepares to exit, the driver, Kamel, engages Kalanick in a conversati­on about the company’s business model and the financial pressure that low-cost services put on drivers.

“We didn’t go low-end because we wanted to,” Kalanick tells Kamel. “We went low-end because we had to.”

The conversati­on soon turns heated. When Kamel says that the company dropped the price of Uber’s black car service, Kalanick points a finger and says “bullsh—.”

When the driver says he has lost nearly $100,000 and tells Kalanick, “I’m bankrupt because of you,” the chief executive fires back.

“You know what? Some people don’t like to take responsibi­lity for their own s—-. They blame everything in their life on everyone else,” Kalanick says.

Jessie Newburn of Columbia, Md., began driving for Uber more than a year ago and has documented the experience in books called “Uber Chronicles.” Uber is running a business, not building a “family,” she said, and drivers have to engage with the company accordingl­y.

That means having multiple streams of income, Newburn said. If you work in the “gig economy” — meaning you draw money from multiple small jobs — then you cannot rely on any single contract.

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