The Day

‘Multiple’ whistleblo­wers possible

Second person has come forward

- By LAURA KING

Washington — A second whistleblo­wer has come forward in the fast-developing impeachmen­t inquiry against President Donald Trump, and more may be in the offing, raising the possibilit­y of damaging new disclosure­s as people in proximity to the president begin to provide evidence.

Mark Zaid, a lawyer for the original whistleblo­wer in the case, said Sunday that his team now represente­d a second person who had come forward. Another lawyer on the legal team, Andrew Bakaj, tweeted later that the firm was representi­ng “multiple” whistleblo­wers but provided no details on the number, the status of their complaints, or whether they were also part of the intelligen­ce community.

“He’s arrived at a very different place right now. He’s being held to account in a way that he never had before and is running into the limits of what he normally does.” TIM O’BRIEN, TRUMP BIOGRAPHER

Zaid, in remarks first reported by ABC News and confirmed by him on Twitter, said the latest whistleblo­wer had direct knowledge of White House dealings with Ukraine.

Although there is no legal requiremen­t that a whistleblo­wer have firsthand knowledge — and much of the first whistleblo­wer’s account has been corroborat­ed — Republican allies of Trump have sought to rebut the charges by referring to them as “hearsay.”

Like the original whistleblo­wer whose complaint jump-started the impeachmen­t inquiry last month, Zaid said the latest one also comes from within the intelligen­ce community and also has been in contact with the intelligen­ce inspector general, the reporting path set out by federal law for whistleblo­wers.

The impeachmen­t inquiry so far has centered on a July phone call in which the president urged Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to open an investigat­ion into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, and also to look into a discredite­d conspiracy theory about Ukraine’s role in the 2016 election.

Biden, a front-runner for the 2020 Democratic presidenti­al nomination, has vehemently denied any wrongdoing, and no evidence against him has emerged.

The president, spending a cloudy autumn Sunday at the White House, sought anew to defend his calls for Ukraine and China to investigat­e the Bidens and to help discredit the finding by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III that Russia worked to aid Trump in the 2016 vote.

Trump and his allies have tried to cast his appeals to foreign government­s as part of a wide-ranging anti-corruption drive, though the president, when asked last week, could not name another such case that did not involve the Bidens.

No senior White House official appeared on Sunday’s major news-talk shows to defend the president, but some Republican lawmakers who took up that task have adopted a new talking point, suggesting he was only joking when he asked foreign powers to initiate investigat­ions of his rival.

On Thursday, in a televised question-and-answer session with reporters outside the White House, Trump called on Beijing, with which he is in the midst of a trade confrontat­ion, to look into the former vice president and his son, as he had earlier urged Ukraine to do.

“You really think he was serious?” Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio asked on ABC’s “This Week.” On CBS’ “Face the Nation,” Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri said: “I doubt the China comment is serious.”

Trump’s tone, however, was not jocular.

“China should start an investigat­ion into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine,” the president said Thursday.

On Sunday, he struck a similarly strident tone, tweeting that “as President, I have an OBLIGATION to look into possible, or probable, CORRUPTION!”

Trump’s accusers have characteri­zed the public remarks about China as an effort by the president to try to convince Americans that appealing to foreign government­s for political help is a normal part of diplomacy. Federal law prohibits candidates from receiving money or other things of value from foreign government­s, and U.S. diplomats have described Trump’s overtures as unpreceden­ted.

The existence of the second whistleblo­wer — and perhaps others — could galvanize what so far has been a very small contingent of Senate Republican­s, led by Utah’s Mitt Romney, who have expressed concern that the president’s actions might have constitute­d an abuse of power and a threat to national security.

GOP lawmakers have generally gone to considerab­le lengths to avoid angering the president, particular­ly if they sense that previous public statements could come back to haunt him.

Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, who earlier questioned the president directly about crucial military aid to Ukraine being withheld, insisted on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that at the time, he firmly believed Trump’s denial that the aid was being used as leverage.

“When I asked the president about that, he completely denied it, he adamantly denied it, he vehemently, angrily denied it — he said, ‘I’d never do that,’” Johnson said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

In a combative exchange with host Chuck Todd, he said Trump was right to demand “an accounting of things in 2016.” “Who set him up?” he asked. On the same program, Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., said Republican­s were going to “wild lengths” to avoid being subjected to Twitter tirades such as the one Romney has faced in recent days, in which the president called the Utah Republican “pompous” and an “ass.”

Democrats, meanwhile, suggested that others with crucial knowledge of events surroundin­g Trump’s twin obsessions with the Bidens and the 2016 vote might now feel emboldened to come forward, whether out of self-preservati­on or a sense of moral outrage.

Rep. Jim Himes of Connecticu­t, appearing on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” predicted that more staff members in sensitive positions would either initiate whistleblo­wer complaints or provide damaging informatio­n to the news media.

“His behavior has gotten to a place where people are saying, ‘Enough,’” said Himes, the second-ranking Democrat on the House Intelligen­ce Committee. “People who were at the very core of all these events are saying, ‘This can’t happen anymore.’”

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