The Denver Post

POSTMASTER GEN. DISAGREED WITH PRESIDENT, AG

DeJoy held phone call with Griswold, other secretarie­s of state around U. S. last week

- By Conrad Swanson

DeJoy disputes comments on mail- in voting in call with Griswold and other secretarie­s of state.

Postmaster General Louis DeJoy disagreed with comments from the president and U. S. attorney general regarding mail- in voting during a phone conference last week with secretarie­s of state from across the country, according to audio of the call obtained by The Denver Post.

When asked by Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold, DeJoy also said he agreed that attempts — from Barr or others — to spread misinforma­tion about postal workers and mail- in elections would be meant to undermine confidence in the U. S. Postal Service’s ability to carry out a mail- in election.

David Rupert, USPS communicat­ions manager, declined to comment on DeJoy’s statements. Instead, Rupert pointed to press releases about the conference sent last week. Those releases underscore­d DeJoy’s confidence in postal workers’ abilities to carry out the election, which is likely to see a substantia­l increase of voters mailing in ballots due to the ongoing coronaviru­s pandemic.

The official statements from USPS did not, however, detail the exchange between Griswold and DeJoy.

Griswold’s questions carry some weight because Colorado’s vote- by- mail system is considered the country’s gold standard. In addition, her administra­tion — alongside Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser — sued the Postal Service after it sent mailers across the state containing false

and misleading informatio­n about the state’s election practices. A federal judge quickly barred the Postal Service from sending additional mailers to voters in Colorado.

“I want to ask you specifical­ly about the events over the last few months where President ( Donald) Trump and the attorney general have relentless­ly promoted misinforma­tion about vote by mail,” Griswold said. “From saying that he was attacking the postal service to try and stop vote by mail, to inhibit vote by mail. To saying lies about foreign countries intercedin­g in vote by mail. To litigation on mail ballot drop boxes.”

“We are concerned about the level of misinforma­tion. And Mr. Postmaster General, I would like to specifical­ly know what is your specific plan to address the misinforma­tion coming from the administra­tion, increase confidence in the United States Postal Service’s ability to safely and securely deliver ballots? And how will you use your position as postmaster general to protect our democracy from forces actively trying to undermine confidence in the election?”

DeJoy noted that he has repeatedly said in testimony and statements that he “actually at points disagree with the president publicly on that particular issue.”

“And I said earlier we’re very well prepared to support the mail- in- vote process and that’s all I really want to comment on that at this point,” DeJoy said, avoiding the specifics of Griswold’s questions.

Later in the conversati­on, Griswold noted Attorney General William Barr’s unsubstant­iated claims that postal workers could easily be bribed for ballots.

“Do you agree with Attorney General Barr and, if so, what are you doing specifical­ly to protect mail carriers and protect our democracy?”

“I’m not going to engage in this kind of discussion,” DeJoy said.

When Griswold pressed the issue, he responded: “As I testified in Congress, I have full confidence in the postal employees to fulfill their obligation­s during the election process. And I didn’t take the bait then, and I won’t take it now.”

Griswold said that she did not cast the “bait,” but rather the attorney general did.

“The attorney general is obviously a very important position in the United States and I guess I will take from this conversati­on that like you, I believe that postal workers will be able to carry out the election and that any allegation­s of bribes of postal workers are intended to undermine confidence. Thank you.”

“We agree on that, thank you,” DeJoy said.

Griswold told The Denver Post on Tuesday that she was surprised DeJoy split so strikingly from Trump and Barr and their messaging on vote- by- mail elections. With DeJoy’s commitment to stand behind the Postal Service during the election and support his workers, Griswold said she and others will keep watch to make sure the postmaster general keeps his word.

“If the actions get too far away from the words, we will not be intimidate­d or have second thoughts about pursuing legal action again,” Griswold said.

So far, since the Postal Service settled the lawsuit filed by Griswold and Weiser, the secretary of state said the agency has kept its word to stop sending out additional mailers and to let local officials sign off on online content about the election.

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