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Harry and Meghan try interviews without the interviewi­ng – Archewell Audio podcast review

- Hannah Verdier

“Hi guys, I’m Harry.”

“And I’m Meghan.”

So begins the highly anticipate­d debut episode of Archewell Audio. Behind the unassuming name lies the fruits of ex-royal couple Meghan and Harry’s multimilli­on dollar podcast deal with Spotify’s Gimlet studio.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s brand is all about compassion and kindness, and yet they still get trolled from many an angle. How dare they be so “woke” and talk about empathy, good deeds and hope, especially at a time when the world needs it so much?

As people who were actual royalty until earlier this year, the pair presumably have any guest they could possibly want on speed dial, so they’ve picked ones “from all walks of life” including

James Corden, Deepak Chopra, Matt Haig and Sir Elton John for their Holiday Special. (Yes, holiday, not Christmas. So far, so squarely aimed at the American market.)

But this isn’t your average interview podcast, mostly because Harry and Meghan don’t actually do any interviewi­ng. Instead, they’ve asked their guests to record audio diaries to mull over what 2020 means to them. “We were curious to hear what they’d reflect on when they had a moment to themselves,” says Harry. “Without navigating the sometimes awkward dance of a video chat, meaning no one having to say: ‘You’re on mute’ over and over again, which is probably one of the defining phrases of 2020.” (Checking the relatable box there, Harry.)

So does that mean they couldn’t actually be bothered to talk to Elton John about his cancelled tour or Matt Haig’s “scrolling and scrolling” at the terrible news? If you’re expecting insight, debate or any sense of who the couple really are, it’s not going to come from this flashy headline-grabber. Some of podcasting’s finest moments come when conversati­on rambles on and takes an unexpected turn (see Michelle Obama), so Archewell Audio might as well have been a one-way radio broadcast.

Meghan is super-slick and NPRconfide­nt, leading the conversati­on as Harry follows: she starts the sentences with purpose and he finishes them. Harry’s laid-back posh drawl pronounces the year of doom as “twenny twenny” and Meghan has that Gwyneth Paltrow-esque knack of saying something with such wide-eyed gravitas that you’re hypnotised into thinking you’ve just heard a meaningful revelation. “Connection was crucial for all of us this year, in whatever way we found it,” she says. “Sometimes standing at a distance, sometimes just through a screen.”

Harping on about the power of connection is ironic if you don’t actually get close to interviewi­ng your interviewe­es. During one of their links,

 ??  ?? The Duke and Duchess of Sussex podcast begins with a host of guests who have inspired them in 2020. Photograph: Hannah McKay/Reuters
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex podcast begins with a host of guests who have inspired them in 2020. Photograph: Hannah McKay/Reuters

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