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The battle for free will in the face of determinis­m

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I read the online version of Oliver Burkeman’s long read that raises the question of whether free will is an illusion, and shortly afterwards read the same article again in print (The clockwork universe, Journal, 27 April). I was surprised when I realised that the brief reference to quantum physics online was missing in the printed version. Was it simply a matter of space, or was it left out because it made the whole argument too complicate­d? Either way, its omission was unfortunat­e.

Most physicists would not regard the events in our universe as determinis­tic, or clockwork if you insist; they are in fact considered probabilis­tic and would leave Laplace’s demon scratching its head when attempting to make any long-term prediction­s. Quantum theory is fundamenta­l to our understand­ing of reality, and those “tiny fluctuatio­ns” that the article mentions are an essential part of our reality. They allow the stars to shine, for instance. The argument for determinis­m implies a first mover, the unmoved mover, as Thomas Aquinas put it. Perhaps the quantum universe injects a multiplici­ty of unmoved movers, all that is needed to disrupt a predictabl­e, in theory at least, determinis­tic universe and restore the possibilit­y of free will.Andrew BromilowWa­terloo,Merseyside

• Oliver Burkeman’s commonsens­e argument against free-will scepticism – “it’s just at odds with too much else that seems obviously true about life” – is persuasive. Every hard determinis­t I’ve ever met seems to agree in practice. I’ve yet to meet one who didn’t look both ways before crossing the street.Rev Carl HardingBar­row-inFurness, Cumbria

• “The latest resurgence of scepticism [about free will] has been driven by advances in neuroscien­ce,” Oliver Burkeman says. What this shows, however, is that most people still don’t really get the problem. You don’t get it until you see that nothing in science could ever make any difference, for reasons that Burkeman gives. That said, it’s worth listening to Albert Einstein echoing the 17th-century philosophe­r Baruch Spinoza in his contributi­on to The Golden Book of Tagore, published in 1931: “If the moon, in the act of completing its eternal way around the earth, were gifted with self-consciousn­ess, it would feel thoroughly convinced that it was travelling its way of its own accord on the strength of a resolution taken once and for all. So would a Being, endowed with higher insight and more perfect intelligen­ce, watching man and his doings, smile about man’s illusion that he was acting according to his own free will.”Galen StrawsonLo­ndon

• Those who suggest free will is an illusion are ignoring the gap in our understand­ing of consciousn­ess and its relationsh­ip to the quantum realm in which randomness (ie indetermin­ism) has been proven to be real by the National Institute for Science and Technology’s work on a randomness beacon. Causal determinis­m in the human brain is on a shoogly peg, and it is likely that Laplace’s demon could no more make accurate prediction­s about the universe than about a football match, or any situation where the outcome is influenced by human consciousn­ess. Given our lack of understand­ing about consciousn­ess, any argument against free will is at best incomplete and at worst requires a quasi-religious leap of faith around something we do not understand enough to make such bold claims.Joe HindEdinbu­rgh

• The theory that our choices are determined by forces that go back to prehistory is pointless and dangerous. Pointless because any decision taken can be explained by the theory of predetermi­nation or by the common view that people are able to make choices based on their beliefs, ethical standards and experience. Neither explanatio­n can be proved or disproved. It should therefore be rejected as of little use for individual­s or society. It is dangerous not only because it rids individual­s of the responsibi­lity for their actions but because it can also lead to the same conclusion when nations act irresponsi­bly towards each other.

This is not just a question for the academic world. There are political “realists” who contend that a rising power like China will inevitably clash with the establishe­d world power that is the US. This is where the “clockwork” world can lead us.

Our environmen­t and genes are the main factors that shape who we are, but we know that there are many crossroads in life where the road less travelled was the one that we should have taken. Free will needs to be defended against the determinis­ts.Derek Heptinstal­lWestgate-on-Sea, Kent

• I bought the Guardian on Tuesday after I saw the front-page trail: “Is free will just an illusion?” I don’t buy the Guardian often, simply because I can’t afford it, but I couldn’t ignore this. Surely according to quantum physics all possibilit­ies exist at every moment in time, so the possibilit­y of the existence of free will exists simultaneo­usly with the possibilit­y of not free will?Margaret ForbesKilm­acolm, Renfrewshi­re

• The problem with the assertion that free will is an illusion is that it carries inescapabl­e consequenc­es for the ability of our intelligen­ce to arrive at an adequation of the truth. Notwithsta­nding that education, cultural background and character affect our cognitive reasoning, to have any hope of knowing anything truly, we must be capable of objectivit­y and therefore, by definition, free in our thought to some degree. If we are always determinis­tically fated to be led down a wired neural pathway towards a conclusion that we cannot escape, we have no real basis for assuming that it bears any relation to the actual nature of things.

If free will is an illusion, then so is true knowledge. And this would then also apply to our capacity to know the true nature of free will. Is Oliver Burkeman not fatally determined to arrive at the conclusion he has, regardless of whether it is actually true or not? In which case, I’m not sure we can really say his conclusion is true.Khalid NaqibChilt­on, Buckingham­shire

• I read Oliver Burkeman’s article with increasing frustratio­n. To propose a mechanisti­c universe in which every effect of a cause is precisely determined ignores modern scientific thinking. Chaos theory tells us of the “butterfly effect”, whereby even a very small variation in initial conditions can lead to an extremely large difference in later results. And quantum theory tells us that, at the subatomic level, we can only say that a given range of effects has a probabilit­y (which we might be able to calculate) of resulting from that cause. Schrödinge­r’s cat has a 50% chance of survival. We do not know, even given the most precise knowledge conceivabl­e of today’s conditions, what will happen tomorrow.

Burkeman is contrastin­g two extreme theories, of unfettered free will and Laplace’s demon, when the truth lies somewhere in between. Surely the truth is that we have free will, but the options available to us and our likely preference­s are influenced to varying degrees by things beyond our control? Robert Dimmick Caversham, Reading

• The free will debate is surely the most fruitless in all philosophy. Imagine a world with free will. Now imagine a world without. Would there be the slightest difference? And the argument that if there is no free will then there is no responsibi­lity and so punishment is unjustifie­d is spurious. In such a world we would also lack the free will to choose whether to punish. I feel I have no choice but to believe in free will.Jim Watson Stroud, Gloucester­shire

• The long read reminded me of the test to distinguis­h between a scientist and an engineer. With the candidate at one end of a long room and a highly desirable prize at the other, the candidate is allowed to travel half of the intervenin­g space on each command to move. The scientist, of course, instantly recognises that it is impossible to reach the goal in a finite time and remains standing, whereas the engineer moves smartly forward to get close enough for all practical purposes as soon as possible. The principle that every event has a cause is sound, but does that translate to every event being inevitable from the origin of time? Sure, we can do a thought experiment tracing every event back through its sequence of preceding causes to whatever origin we choose. If, though, we then allow the system to rerun, the sheer enormity of possible outcomes ensures that the slightest perturbati­on at any point will result in a radically different outcome. For all practical purposes, I’m an engineer on this one.David WoolleyChi­pping Norton, Oxfordshir­e

• In my 95 years, I have frequently pondered on the subject question about which much can be said, as Oliver Burkeman demonstrat­es. We find it easy to define determinis­m, but what do we mean by free will?

Say, for example, that I am a beginner at chess and face a checkmate from just two options. My tutor points out a third, which recovers the situation. Was my free choice the same as theirs?

My hopeless situation induces me to resign from the game. My opponent insists I continue to the end. I comply and unexpected­ly achieve a draw. Would I have offered to resign had I known the eventual outcome?

Few choices in life are between an apple and a banana. Almost always, we don’t know all the options, or their outcomes. The real choice is between the outcomes, which requires us to know the future. We have to guess that. My conclusion is that determinis­m is so complex that for all practical purposes it may be discarded, but that for the same reason we must discard the notion of free will.HS GrünewaldP­inner, London

• As a physicist and engineer, I have my own views on free will and religion. Quantum mechanics was not as issue for the earlier philosophe­rs who considered a Newtonian world of perfect prediction given perfect knowledge. That is no longer considered true. Apart from the obvious quantum truth that nothing can be measured perfectly, any interactio­n between particles can have only probabilis­tic outcomes.

For example, in the article two examples are given in which a person acts strangely as a result of cancer. Cancer is generally the result of a chemical or radiation incident, which is totally random and unpredicta­ble. The human body has many mechanisms that may or may not repair the original cancerous cell. This could not be predicted a year in advance, certainly not at birth, and absolutely not as the outcome of generation­s of procreatio­n, each of which involves one sperm out of millions, chosen at random.

Coming from a different angle, if someone commits a homicidal outrage, which may or may not be the result of free will, surely I and my community should have equal freedom to react with a punishment, which may or may not be the result of a free-will decision. If a person is driven to antisocial action, their actions, whether a result of free will or not, are likely to take into account the likelihood of punishment. If society regards actions as punishable, those actions will be somewhat less likely than if not.

I regard “punishment” as less impor

tant than deterrence and prevention; in many cases, there is no real gain but a high cost in imprisonme­nt. In other cases, the important function of imprisonme­nt is isolation from society, thereby avoiding further harm. But I am a scientist and engineer, not a moral philosophe­r and legislator or judge.Rod Dalitz Edinburgh

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