The Guardian (USA)

Bruce Dern: ‘If you want to succeed in any craft, you have to be patient’

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Ours was a family that got shit done. My grandfathe­r was America’s Secretary of War, previously the governor of Utah. My dad’s law partner – my godfather – ran for the presidency, twice. Every week important people joined us at dinner. What I saw put me off politics for life.

At 14, my parents sent me to a boarding school in New England. My protest was the longest conversati­on I ever had with my father, and it only lasted 20 minutes. Later, I realised they just wanted me out of the way.

I’ve been a runner since the age of 11. For 17 years I ran without ever missing a single day. It was an addiction, really: seven to 10 miles, come rain or shine.

I quit college after two years in 1956 and started going to the movies almost daily. I realised how profoundly the people I watched were touching me. God, I thought, I’d like to learn how to do that. I packed my things and headed to New York.

I spent my first year learning to act in silence, focusing on character and expression without uttering a word. It taught me that acting is the ability to be publicly private. Jack Nicholson calls it a “Dernsy” when actors add material that’s not on the page; Quentin [Tarantino] says on screen I’m always “in the now”.

I’ve never had a drink or smoked a cigarette. My parents were what I’d describe as social alcoholics; it put me off. In the 90s, however, I got hooked on Vicodin – a prescripti­on painkiller. For five years I was popping 27 pills a day.

Awards never bothered me much. That changed the year my daughter Laura was nominated for her first Oscar in 1992. Her mother – Diane Ladd, my ex-wife – received a nomination for the same movie [Rambling Rose]. I was incredibly proud of them.

Endurance has been key to my longevity in the industry. If you want to succeed in any craft, you have to be patient. Only convention­al people make it early. The rest of us have to work hard to create a space for ourselves.

Laura and I just shot a series, Mrs American Pie, where I play her father. We didn’t write the dialogue, but it was exposing. In front of the camera, we confronted real life.

Diane and I had a child who drowned in 1962. It was horrific. Ten years later, when I was driving Laura, she said: “Daddy, I miss my sister.” Her sister had died five years before she was born.

Retirement is impossible. Acting is what I do and who I am. I’ll keep at it as long as I can. I can’t remember lines as well as I used to, but I’m good enough.

 ?? Photograph: James Mankoff ?? ‘I spent my first year learning to act in silence, focusing on character and expression without uttering a word’: Bruce Dern.
Photograph: James Mankoff ‘I spent my first year learning to act in silence, focusing on character and expression without uttering a word’: Bruce Dern.

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