The Guardian (USA)

Tucker Carlson’s Putin interview wasn’t journalism. It was sycophancy

- Margaret Sullivan

The former Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s much touted sit-down with Vladimir Putin was many things. It was damaging to global democracy, giving ammunition to the craven congressio­nal Republican­s who want to do Putin’s bidding by denying aid to Ukraine. It was boring, particular­ly given the Russian president’s long discourse, early in the two-hour slog, on his version of the history of the region.

And it was a priceless propaganda gift, helping Putin in every possible way with his messaging – internally in Russia, and externally to the world – about Ukraine. That started with Carlson’s introducto­ry video message, recorded after the interview, urging his viewers on X (formerly Twitter) to see Putin above all as “sincere”.

But here’s what the interview was not. It was not journalism, despite being a rare chance for a western media figure to question the Russian leader.

Even Carlson’s question – toward the end of the excruciati­ngly long session – about the imprisoned Wall

Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovic­h wasn’t really a gesture of journalist­ic solidarity or a nod to democratic ideals about a free press.

Instead, it was decency theater, poorly performed.

Sucking up to Putin at every turn, Carlson described Gershkovic­h – an accomplish­ed and respected American reporter in his 30s – as a “kid” and even suggesting that he may have done something illegal that justified his arrest almost a year ago.

Gershkovic­h’s colleagues at the Wall Street Journal were appropriat­ely appalled. Ted Mann, a Journal reporter, tweeted that it was “disgracefu­l” of Carlson to suggest he’d broken the law, and the Journal issued a statement that made their position clear: “Evan is a journalist and journalism is not a crime. Any portrayal to the contrary is total fiction.”

A personal note: Gershkovic­h was my editorial assistant in 2015 when I was the New York Times public editor; even then, when he really was a kid in his early 20s, he was diligent, honest and a journalist at heart; I’m sickened by how he’s been treated.

I’m sure that Carlson would love to help bring Gershkovic­h home, as he suggested – think of the publicity – but Putin didn’t bite. He insisted that the Journal reporter was “caught redhanded when he was secretly getting confidenti­al informatio­n”. That sounds a lot like reporting; and there’s no reason to think Gershkovic­h was a pipeline to the government.

But Putin clearly wants a swap for Vadim Krasikov, an FSB assassin serving a life sentence in Germany for killing a Georgian military officer in Berlin in 2019. After all, state-approved assassins must be looked after; that’s crucial

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