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‘Any of Us Could Find Ourselves Under a Conservato­rship’

Director Samantha Stark and journalist Liz Day reflect on the cultural reckoning sparked by Britney Spears’ legal battle and how their documentar­y is driving forward the conversati­on ‘about society, gender, power, money, fame and our legal system’

- By Harper Lambert

Framing Britney Spears documentar­ians Samantha Stark and Liz Day reflect on the cultural reckoning sparked by the pop star’s legal battle. PLUS Former SNL writers John Lutz and Paula Pell dish on their Murder, She Wrote spoof Mapleworth Murders.

To say that The New York Times Presents: Framing Britney Spears caused a stir when it premiered Feb. 5 would be a grave understate­ment. The Hulu/FX documentar­y, which investigat­es the pop legend’s conservato­rship and her fight to break free of it, sent shock waves rippling across the internet and beyond. Almost overnight, #FreeBritne­y became a household topic of conversati­on. Justin Timberlake, Perez Hilton and Sarah Silverman apologized for their past behavior and jokes directed at Spears, while others reflected on the misogynist­ic media culture that paved the way for what she has called an abusive legal arrangemen­t. Yet director Samantha Stark and senior story editor Liz Day, who have done subsequent reporting in The New York Times, insist that their film was only the beginning. In a conversati­on with THR, they discussed how they created one of the most-talkedabou­t documentar­ies of the year and the significan­ce of their Emmy nomination for outstandin­g doc special.

Framing Britney Spears is not a typical documentar­y in that it follows a case that is still in progress. How do you see your project fitting into a larger story that is ongoing?

SAMANTHA STARK Something that really struck me when Britney spoke [in court] on June 23 is that one of the reasons she didn’t come out and say this earlier was she didn’t think anyone would believe her. What I hope our documentar­y and our reporting is doing is bolstering her story with facts, with care and with a new viewpoint. In confidenti­al court documents, we saw that she had been saying [she wanted to end her conservato­rship] since at least 2014. I think Britney is not a victim, not a small person. I think she would have come forward and said this without the documentar­y. But I hope the documentar­y showed her that people believed her, because it did spark a lot of people around the world to come out and support her.

LIZ DAY When we first started going into production last summer, we knew we wanted to look backward as to how Britney got here, but we weren’t sure what was going to happen in the conservato­rship battle. Shortly after we started, her court-appointed counsel started filing these big bombshells in the conservato­rship case saying she wants more transparen­cy, she wants her dad out. We were lucky to be there at that moment to capture that unfolding.

What has been the most surprising element of the massive public response the film has received?

STARK The most surprising element is people realizing that they were wrong to judge Britney and [are now] believing her. I do think that the misogyny that we showcased in the documentar­y is connected to where she is today. It has been easy for people to make fun of Britney, and that made it easy for there to be this silence around the conservato­rship. At our first meeting together, we agreed we would never make fun of Britney Spears, and we all took that to heart. It’s been incredible that it feels like now the world is also taking that to heart.

DAY One other thing that has been surprising is the broad appeal of this story. When we talked about it inside of The New York Times, there were some people who felt there’s a lot going on in the world — why should people care about a celebrity case? That really frustrated me, because for me, it was always so much more than a singular story. It was a story about society, gender, power, money and fame, and our legal system. Any of us could one day find ourselves under a conservato­rship. It felt clear to me why this would be broadly appealing, but not everyone felt that way. So it was surprising to see my hairdresse­r talking to me about it, my friend’s 76-year-old dad talking to me about it, people from all different background­s and ages and situations having an interest in this story.

#FreeBritne­y has played a significan­t role in public perception of the case, as has Britney’s Instagram account. How did you incorporat­e social media into your storytelli­ng?

STARK It’s a double-edged sword, because a lot of people came to Britney’s case by looking at her Instagram and saying, “Oh, she looks crazy, that’s why she’s in this conservato­rship,” without understand­ing what a conservato­rship is and how social media can be misleading — particular­ly with Britney’s account, since it would be outlandish to think she controls it by herself when she can’t control basic things like who she interacts with, where she lives, what she does. It’s also the only window we got [into her life]. I looked at every post from 2015 until now, and there were some beautiful posts with her kids and with her laughing and making jokes that we included. What we realized when talking to her fans is that a lot of them were bringing up important questions about the conservato­rship system. There were people trying to look into her case using public court documents, and social media was the way that spread.

On July 17, a post appeared on Britney’s Instagram stating that she “didn’t like the way the documentar­ies bring up humiliatin­g moments from the past.” How do you contend with this in your reporting?

STARK While we were making the film, we talked a lot about re-traumatizi­ng Britney and her family by showing these moments. Part of the reason it’s called Framing Britney Spears is there are these still-photo frames that were humiliatin­g to her. We thought it was really important to pull outside the frame because so many people had all these assumption­s based on one frame, one still image that they saw. In the end, we felt like we had to put some of them in because we wanted people to have more context. We always tried to have her talk back to [the paparazzi] if we could. She 100 percent deserves to be mad that we’re still looking at those photos, because it’s ridiculous that we’re still looking at them, and they shouldn’t have been there in the first place. As much as I want to explain myself to her, I totally understand

where she’s coming from.

What was your reaction to the Emmy nomination?

DAY We’re incredibly honored … but also, it’s not about us. This is about the story. We’re very much committed to continuing to follow this conservato­rship battle as it is heating up and continuing to develop faster than ever. We try through follow-up articles to be a beacon of informatio­n for the public to stay abreast of what’s going on with Britney’s case.

STARK The idea of being involved in a competitio­n based on her story is hard because we don’t want it to feel exploitati­ve. When the Emmy nomination­s were announced, it was the day before Britney had another court hearing on July 14, and she is still in the same situation that she was in before the documentar­y came out. We’re extremely committed to following through because we want to make sure we keep covering the story accurately and keep it in the limelight.

What does Britney’s case reveal about the conservato­rship system at large?

DAY One big takeaway has been how the letter of the law can differ from what’s playing out on the ground. You can scour the court records and say Britney’s conservato­r is only allowed to do X, Y and Z according to the California statute. But what’s legally allowed to happen versus what is actually allegedly happening can be quite different. If this is happening in Britney’s case, what’s happening in the million other conservato­rships across the country?

STARK Conservato­rships don’t take into account coercion, power dynamics, emotional manipulati­on. Britney says, “I felt forced into this mental health facility,” and the other side is saying she consented to going there. Did Britney sign a consent form to go into this mental health facility? Maybe she did. But it doesn’t take into account the possibilit­y of retaliatio­n if she doesn’t sign it. With #MeToo, we’ve been talking a lot about how if somebody has power over somebody else, and they don’t object to something, it doesn’t necessaril­y mean they’re consenting to it. This whole conservato­rship has been presented as voluntary and we’re trying to figure out what that means in the conservato­rship world because everyone has a different definition. What I’m hoping the Emmy nomination does is show how many people care about Britney, and how many people want to know the truth.

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Britney Spears posed for paparazzi on her way home from a tour in December 2000. In Framing Britney Spears, director Samantha Stark says she tried to show the singer responding to photograph­ers whenever possible.

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